Fitted Clubs Make All the Difference

I am rather dejected tonight. It is a sad time at the Doc's house. As I sit here, the old fart that I am, in my underwear, I now learn that I as well as my fellow old fart underwearing brethern are the problem with this blog. Heck, I didn't even know that we had a problem. I just hate it when I don't get the memoes.

Lynn, It is truly pleasant to see your comments. I am very glad to see you have decided to remain with us. I would love to be able to help you with the site posting problems, but it is so hard to do through long distance. I wish I could set at your computer and actually see what the situation is. I know you have said you are unable to post at the regular blog page, but it is almost impossible to diagnose the cause without being able to examine the patient/PC in question. My best advice, since Tec Support thinks it is at your end, is to reach out to your best family/friend computer wiz. I'm sure you have at least one relative/friend who fits that classification. Fortunately for me it's my son. What I'm getting at is, someone (more skilled) may have to actually set at your PC and examine why you cannot do, what you should be able to do. I do wish you the best and hope that you are able to resolve this problem in some way. Cheers

Amen Robert F, mnemonic devices are key to clearing the mind before each shot.
I often have students who get into a good ball striking rhythm for a short time and then lose it a begin to hit all kinds of bad shots. I often get them back on track by having them begin their pre-shot routine by singing Happy Birthday and continuing to sing the song aloud or in their head while hitting shots.

As to your race, not human as far as I can tell.

JanetM:

Has not answering you in kind (your communication style and content) made you angry?

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Dick, I feel your frustration. I let him push my buttons too. I/we need to go back to just ignoring him again. I am going to try a little harder this time. Let's get back to pleasantries.

Different core and cover hardness on balls makes for different performance based on the swing speed, launch angle, etc. The slower your swing speed, the softer a ball you need in order to properly compress it for maximum rebound off the club face. For higher swing speeds, you want a harder core so you don't over-compress it and waste energy. Softer covers make for higher spin rates, which can be important for people who have trouble getting the ball airborne or getting it to stop. For players who have better control over their spin rate through impact and higher swing speeds, harder covers can keep them from over-spinning the ball and having it balloon on drives.

And, for more, better information than my BS, read this one from Doc Griffin: http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Ho...

Bob

I did not know the Cigar General is politically incorrect. If that is the case, I can't ever listen to him again.

You know how important it is to me to be sensitive, and PC.

That right there might just be the funniest thing I have ever said.
Dick

SGW:

I didn't address everything they do. I know of several other ways to deal with the issue of the eyes introducing errors but Aimpoint does deal with this idea in the Edel putter fitting system that comes with it ... I got an Edel putter but had asked for it in a belly putter format (like Scotty McCarron's). When it came back normal length I tried it but couldn't use it .... they never told me that they didn't make belly putters so they wound up giving me back my money and I gave them back the Edel putter -- I weighted my Taylormade Monza to about what the Edel was.

Anyway ... what they do is place a mirror on your current putter and hit it from a laser behind the hole .. they ask you to line up an 8 foot straight putt. It turns out when about everyone thinks they are lined up on the hole by what their eyes tell them they are actually not -- I was pointed 2 inches right of the hole. So apparently they take into account how to line up the club to take into account your eye induced error.

My putter fitter invented a deal where there are lines on the top of the club that give you a visual feedback when you are exactly on the line. But for some reason his idea could not work for me so my Edel putter didn't have that feature.

>From your explanation of what they have available to help golfers read greens better is a potential great help to a lot of players who never understood how green shapes can mess with their heads.

Between optical illusions, false ideas on how to putt, grain (Aimpoint says it has about zero effect), errors induced by the eyes and wiggly hands intruding on the swing what happens is that a golfer will attribute a false cause to the effect.

The key to being a short game wizard is to link cause (true cause) to effect.

Aimpoint even helps you figure out the true speed of the greens (if all of them have the same speed this works) ... they have you putt on a side hill putt four feet. And you allow x much break ... the have a table on how much it should break given the slope. If it breaks less than what a chart calls for then the speed is slower and if it breaks more then the speed is faster. And they have charts for all speeds. So you wind up using the chart for the day where the break has told you the right speed. They say that the guys at the pro shop are not people to rely on for speed ratings.

>>Increasing the make able distance is the key to scoring. It makes it easier on the short game. It makes it easier on the iron play.

Exactly. But Aimpoint also gets you thinking in terms of math and calculating exact break. During my lesson I started sinking a load of 10 and 15 feet putts as did most of the students.

>That said a green always has the right to reject putts that are struck perfectly.

I use to think that when I missed a perfectly struck putt that maybe there was some sort of irregularity in the green that caused it or that I was a bad putter or putting it too difficult or why does golf have such a small whole etc. Now it is more like what went on in my calculations.

Missing makeable putts clouds the mind whereas using Aimpoint creates the expectation that you can sink a very high % of putts 15 feet and in, never miss short ones and make a fair degree of longer ones. They have a lot of drills too to make a person a better putter but your focus on the role of the eyes you bring up they only address by the Edel putter. You ought to contact them and see if they are open to working with you. Shared thinking process.

Thanks Roy. As life continues to evolve for me I see teaching, training or helping others in the world of health/fitness/ and golf. I appreciate your example. Thanks.

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Hey Bootlicker,

I think that you get off on telling other guy's war stories as if they were your own. I agree with Dick. You were probably a bootlicker and troublemaker during any time that you might have spent in the service.

From now on, every vet on this site, when addressing you should use the term Bootlicker in the salutation as I have done here.

For Everyone else, Hit'em Long and Straight,
Bob

For You,
Lick Boots

I love that he tells me what you say, because clearly I never read the blog (though I only actually read what he said here because of your response--otherwise I skip any such comments as they do me no good to read them).

BP:

Having served USAF for 4 years (4344) I consider:
" If you consider that "chickened out", well at least you maintain your 100% full of crap rate." to be an excuse. I see all the time you spend here on this forum saying how interested you are in golf yadda yadda yadda and you were offered a free trial of a new technology and you turned it down. Count how many others have chickened out of seeing the real deal and holding one for your own use. JanetM even lives here in San Diego and has talked to me on the phone. No way does she want to have reality upset her opinion. And then guys like T Medley tell her it is wise to avoid seeing proof of what I am saying about this material with her own eyes.

You guys remind me of Clinton ... Hillary comes in and finds him in bed with yet another bimbo and what does Bill say to her? ... who are you going to believe ,,, Me? or your own lying eyes?

Bob, your plan sounds good. It is inspirational to meet so many motivated men and women on this site. I'm not suprised really because for the most part good like minded folks are attracted to Surge and we've seemed to gather here although from so many far flung places around the globe. Feels good does'nt it. I think you're on track to help many while still staying connected to golf. Both you and R2 are among those that are helping me set my sites too.
Down the middle,
Robert

Doc,

I did a search on Google for 47" golf shafts and came across Harrison Sports. The following was a comment from a customer on their website:

"I hit the MUGEN shaft in the Cobra 454 and it went about 30 yards further that my current driver. Cobra 460 SZ NV65S."

Sound familiar? Sounds like it could be the "magic shaft." I have Harrison shafts in my clubs and that was sort of the promise I was given when I got them a couple of years ago. They don't live up to the promise. Of course, I am not really sure I have the right club heads either.

What some of the other comments on Harrison's site refer to and it sort of fits with the claims being made is that Harrison shafts work best with whatever club head is best for the individual. That would explain why the offer is always to match it to your club head. I think it is the club head that matters in getting 30 extra yards, not the "magic shaft."

As a side note: none of the information on Harrison's website has been updated since August 2008.
Kevin

Steve

That must make it a lot more convenient to scratch yourself.

Hope you at least throw a blanket over you recliner. Don't want to end up with a racing strip on it.

Dick

Kim, Just decided to check in during a movie break. Glad I did. You have caught my attention. I'm sure that I went a little amok today with the poking fun back attitude. Your point is very valid and I will attempt to clean some of my litter up a bit. I seem to have gotten on a roll and unable to stop. I really was just having fun, but you are right. The blog is not the best place for that kind of fun. I will strive to do better and just ignore and resist the urge to poke fun at them. Kim, you make me want to be a better person. One of my all time favorite movies. Have a great evening.

Charlie
The ramblings are from the same person or someone equally demented
Either way, this guy is a space cadet & has an ulterior motive that I find distasteful
I feel no inclination to give him any further leeway - he has insisted on his disrespect to this blog site despite repeated caution
Jack

is it ok for someone to put one of your driver's in a head to head competition against a larry driver?

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Hi Richard,
As a follower of the ppgs swing how important is the flat left wrist position at the top of the backswing , and how do you or did you find the best way to achieve this position as I find it extremely difficukt to feel and do..............all help welcome

I look forward to hear from you or any other PPGS Swingers.

I've had about six separate comments written on this subject, but I chickened out on each one of them and pressed the "cancel" button.

And please, this isn't an invitation to start up the chicken posts again.

Hey Ronny,
The clubs in question were purchased on Ebay, when I thought I knew a thing or two about shafts,
I took them to the KZG fitter here in Melbourne to get the lies adjusted for me, he recommend getting them reshafted if I planned to use them regularly,
After reading some recent comments from the blog, It seems its worthwhile to get a new set made rather than retro fitting,

Doc, what do you reckon? Reshaft the Forged III's or start fresh? the HB516 Irons shur do look pretty! http://www.kzgolf.com/sites/co...

BP:

>If you had paid attention to what has been said, you would know which country I'm currently in. So, since you have the retention of a mentally deficient goldfish ... I R A Q. Booking a flight yet?

We won in Vietnam on the round and then the Democrat party (plus Tom Hayden, Joan Baez and Jane Fonda, John Kerry et al) stabbed the Vietnamese people in the back. That is why he have a huge Hmong population here in San Diego, Vietnamese population too. These folks really didn't want to be communists and millions died getting out of Vietnam. Kerry figured only a few thousand would die in a debate with John O'Neill who later headed Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Of course millions died because Kerry lied. I happen to know the guy who created the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth commercials too.

So why the heck are you still in Iraq and America not won that one by now? It is not like we taxpayers haven't given you enough time and money,

I prefer Dicks remedy with the 1 x 3

Shows what really your made of !

Phillip

Doc

Give the dude some credit. He is a smooth talker. He probably stayed in a Holiday Inn Express while he was down there. We all know how that will help anyone.

Dick

Don, whats your opinion of the 1 iron system where all the clubs are the same length?
correct spelling of opinion this time I hope.
Thanks, Murray(Australia)

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Lynn

I use it to mean I won't go there.

In actual military terms it means if you send up an aircraft, I will shot it's ass out of the air.

Dick

You'll never know, sweetcakes.

Bob - Ego Buster Saul is getting 500 miles per gallon
The most economical use of words possible
I reckon Buster could write a synopsis of War & Peace in 2 pages & not miss a detail
What a ripper

Harry, Here is a great inexpensive training aid to assist you with that problem. I have one and use it often at the range.

http://cgi.ebay.com/GOLF-TRAIN...

Dick
I'm with you on the laughter. Taking shots at trolls should be an olympic event. We have a gold medal for sure.

I'm gonna take the "magic" Doc driver for another run tomorrow, mother nature willing. I'm hitting the rack with a smile on my face. Hope you get out tomorrow.

Been more fun than a barrel of monkeys

Good night.

Lynn42

try this
http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Bl...

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Don't forget, he is a product of the Oakland school system.

Thank you,T. I'm thinking the problem is somehow tied to a security setting or an anti virus progam I have. It's just very strange that I can do everything except reply or post on the main blog.

My one son-in-law is a self-proclaimed computer geek so I 'll have him check it when he gets a chance.

Lynn42

Es:

I appreciate your comments, rather than attack others my interest is in what works. Tiger has has a number of instructors since he was a kid so he has heard a variety of ways to hit a golf ball. He seems to be back from today's results but when he is going back it would be easy to fault the instruction he is getting ... and he is a gifted athlete. Unless the flame throwers are +2 scratch handicaps their opinion is worth as much as mine ... all opinions here are take it or leave it.

to steve:

As to:
>If you have something that we should buy then tell us where to buy it. If not get the heck off of this web site.

I was willing to drive over to your home in Alabama and place the club in your hand. If Doc wants to sell the shaft after testing it and the maker is OK with that then you can buy one from him. I am not a shaft reseller. I just got a huge boost in distance from this new shaft I got (some call it a "magic shaft" ... I guess they saw Forrest Gump"). Then I reported that fact and added other info like the German guy who speaks no English hit one ball (just one swing) around 360 yards in the air of carry - just above sea level about 58 degrees that day. Let's translate that to Mesquite competition conditions for air temp and altitude and he wins the LDA championship every year since it was created.

As I stated before ... I do not have a clue how to fit anyone on earth including me for a driver shaft .... not the meerest clue. But with no practice swing the German guy becomes longer than the Jamie guy and his swing was 3/4 - not the wild swing requiring a flexible body like the Jamie dude. When he was hitting his new R11 we were both carrying the ball around 290 yards.

Today, when Doc called me at the range, I was carrying the ball about 300 yards ... of course is was warmer today than when the German guy used my club. The fun part for me is to buy a solution that has me carrying the ball like a youth.

Plus I work out focused on golf and not running the marathon.

I also don't know how to take iron ore and aluminum and a lot of other raw materials and create a Jaguar. But I know how to drive my Jaguar.

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WK, Bla, Bla, Bla, I didn't know your middle name was Rambo, probably should be Shambo. Do you get all this shit out of books, or just make it up as you go along. Thanks for single handily saving the world for us. What have you done lately though. What a piece of work you are. Lies on top of lies.

Surge says that the club head should be accelerating through impact, so yes, the peak speed would be at some point just after impact.