Doc Griffin is back today for the 7th installment of his series on Shaft Myths. In this video, he talk about the obsession most golfers have with shaft flex as they erroneously believe that it has a big impact on their shot patterns. In most cases, Doc says, this just isn't so. Why? Because there is no industry standard for the marketing description applied to a shaft label. What may be truly a Regular flex in one manufacturer's line may be a Stiff or even a Senior flex in another's. The things that really matter in matching a particular shaft to an individual customer are club head speed, the force of transition, the aggressiveness of the downswing (i.e. whether it is accelerating or decelerating at impact) and the release point. If a particular golfer has high club head speed, and is aggressive in his/her transition and downswing and has a late release, then the flex of the butt end of the club may be an important consideration. But for the vast majority of golfers flex id relatively unimportant.
The key is to match all of the dynamics of the customer's swing to the profile of the entire shaft and find the one that comes closest to maximizing their distance and accuracy.
Keep it vertical!
The Surge
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Seriously? ÃÂ I can sure
Seriously? ÃÂ I can sure hear it just fine and what in the world did I do to give the impression that I wasn't prepared? ÃÂ Give me a break!
BTW: the importance of ball fitting is to find the ball that compresses adequately with your club head speed to produce the maximum ball speed which equates to distance. Also, the importance of bounce on a wedge is important based on turf conditions and dynamics of the players swing. You want to have more bounce if you're a digger, less bounce on tighter lies, etc. Could give a lot more information but the questions were asked on a different sight.
Ahackel:ÃÂ I agree that
Ahackel:ÃÂ I agree that most of Doc's videos sound like he's in the bottom of a well. I think his layed back attitude gives the impression he is bored with the material presented although he does give some good info.ÃÂ I think the industry should standarize on shaft flex because it's apparently causing some confusion with consumers.ÃÂ We need to count on their labeling and not make a bad purchse because the manfacturer doesn't conform to an accepted standards.
If you give some attentionÃÂ
If you give some attentionÃÂ to your internet speed you may just figure out it needs to be fitted to your computer to get the optimum download and upload speeds. Not much different than being fitted for clubs by the good doc.
Jbinsured
Jbinsured
The sound in Doc's videos always have a bit of an echo because of the fact that he is filming inside his workshop which is optimized for making the finest custom-fit golf clubs possible...and not videos.ÃÂ
I agree with you on the standardization of flex definitions and marketing labels. However, if you accept what Doc says in this video as fact, then the amount of flex in the butt-end of a shaft has little to do with whether that is the right shaft for a particular golfer. It's the shaft profile along its entire length that is important here.
And then there are a host of other things that go into making a club correctly once you settle on a shaft. No way the big OEMs pay that much attention to their manufacturing standards or assembly QC. They actually don't want you to be completely happy with your clubs so that when the marketing department comes out with their next hyped up feature (like 460cc heads and 46" shaft lengths) lots of people will jump on board to grab the "latest and greatest" because they are not 100% happy with their current clubs.
I missed your Denver visit,
I missed your Denver visit, unfortunately.
Do you have the name of a competent fitter in Denver area.
My irons have progressed from the wonderful feel and results of x100 shafts in the 70's-80's to rifle 6.5's in the early 90's to a continually futile series of attempts to maintain distance and feel with lightweight steel, graphite and carbon graphite shafts.
At least I have found some increased distance with 43 gram driver shaft in a Nakashima 10.5 head.
Help:)
As a beginner in this kind of
As a beginner in this kind of profession, I really find this video informative as it provides some information about playing golf. Though I know this video doesn't discuss all the things about playing golf, I can say that this is helpful for some beginners like me in some way.
Sir, as a professional fitter
Sir, as a professional fitter, and an acquaintance of Doc's I will tell you he knows more about proper fitting than most of us other fitters will ever know.ÃÂ Doc is generous with his knowledge and he speaks clearly.ÃÂ If you ever get the chance to meet him in person you will understand why a lot of us other fitters look up to him.
The Pasadena Clubfitter - Bob Williams
Unfortunately, I don't know
Unfortunately, I don't know of one and what I saw from one of the more "reputable" operations there, I wouldn't walk away, I'd run.
G:ÃÂ I highly recommend Doc
G:ÃÂ I highly recommend Doc's long distance fitting program.ÃÂ He built me the best clubs I've EVER used, and will do the same for you if you are willing to spend the time to provide him with theÃÂ information he needs.ÃÂ The clubs he builds are FAR SUPERIOR to any off-the-shelf junk being sold by the big-box stores. Really!!!ÃÂ ÃÂ R2
Coming through loud & clear
Coming through loud & clear down in New Zealand, Doc. Another great diagnosis from the doctor on shafts. It is a goal of mine to get a fitting from you, long distance, no doubt. A driver, f/w wood & hybrid would do for a start. I just need to talk my wife into it & start selling some old clubs to help fund the operation. Keep up the good work mate
The sound in Doc's videos is
The sound in Doc's videos is terrible. It would also be nice if he had what he wanted to talk about in mind before taping.
Hello and Thank you for these
Hello and Thank you for these very informative sessions. I have recently taken possession of a Boccieri Heavy Driver with an Aldila stiff NVS shaft. I understand this shaft has been butt weighted. Have you any thoughts /experience/advice on these instruments?
Bill
Ireland
What?? sounds good and seems
What?? sounds good and seems prepared!
Doc- that's my experience.
Doc- that's my experience. Roy indicates you can do the work long distance?
If so, please email me the particulars so we can get started.
Thanks
Gary
gpotter@mho.com
ÃÂ Looks to me like he knew
ÃÂ Looks to me like he knew exactly what he wanted to talk about. And then he talked about it.
I could hear the video just fine.
It's using back weighting
It's using back weighting principle. ÃÂ I am neutral on that. ÃÂ It can help offset the feel of too much weight at the head. ÃÂ It can help create proper balance for a player. ÃÂ To me, it's a "fix" for an improperly fit driver for a player. ÃÂ It's not a build method as far as I'm concerned. ÃÂ There are lots of people that would disagree with me on that point.
Alan, based on your last
Alan, based on your last statement I'll be as kind and restrained as possible and suggest you go back to the "other site" where you are obviously much happier.ÃÂ
Doc built me a driver through a long distance fitting (Best driver I've ever owned).ÃÂ The man's reputation speaks for itself.ÃÂ I, for one, value what he has to say and enjoy his presentation.
Good luck with your game.
Doc, again right on the money
Doc, again right on the money with this video. I continue to see and hear about golfers trying to find the magic by simply walking into a golf store and purchasing a set of clubs. I should have said what a waste of money as opposed to right on the money if you donâÂÂt get properly fitted.
PS, the audio and video are fine by my computer