Ball Position For A Peak Performance Golf Swing

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 22:20 -- Don Trahan

Today's tip stems from a one-line question from a brand-new Surgite named Ben who asked:

"Where should the golf ball be in the set up: inside of front foot, middle of feet, back? "

Ben, welcome to the website and to the Peak Performance Golf Swing; I hope that over the eight weeks you've been getting our daily videos these daily tips have helped improve your game. As you may already know, there are numerous fellow Surgites on this blog who are more than willing to help others with extremely good golf advice and tips. Don't hesitate to ask if you need help with something.

Ben's question is a good one and it is one I get asked a lot because many conventional swing instructors will have you play the ball from positions that range from way back in your stance to just off your big toe on your forward foot. Our sing is a nearly vertical swing. Note that I said "nearly" because the human body is not built to swing on a perfect vertical plane. But the setup process we use with the Surge Swing allows us to come pretty darn close.

Because of our narrower stance, flared feet, and a hand/arm position that keeps us at the right distance from the ball no matter which club we have in our hands, we do not need to vary our ball position very much. Basically, from your wedges to your 7-iron, play the ball in the middle of your stance. Then from the 6-iron through to your driver, keep moving the ball slightly forward toward your forward heel. Your driver should play just inside that heel but remember that this swing has parameters and everyone should experiment within this range to find the ball positions that work best for you.

Keep it vertical!

The Surge

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Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Very nice, Tina.  I've witnessed two and come close a few times, but still chasing my first.  A friend of mine and his wife were playing last week and he got his first.  Funny part was they were just coming to the 10th tee when I was waiting to tee off on the first. It was slow in front of them so as they were on the tee on 17 we were approaching the 11th.

I saw his wife's tee shot, but heard no reaction.  When I got home after the round he called as I walked in the door.  The 17th was playing 145 yard into about a 3 club wind so he hit a 4 iron low over the brook and two huge bunkers in front.  The pin was in the back right on a two tiered green. He landed front left and it curled up to the top and turned toward the pin.  He said to a guy playing with them, Ya know, I think it disappeared.  The guy replied, I think you're right.

Sometimes it just happens when you least expect it and that makes it all the more special. 

Congratulations on your first.  I hope it's not your last.

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Submitted by NeilofOz (not verified) on

Lynn, like wise, I play a lot alone as well, never looked like getting a "hole-in-one" then one
week I got two within a copuple of days. All I could do is look up into the clouds and say
"Thanks Mate" to the man upstairs, LOL. 

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

Actually, the design of the clubs themselves is to be hit from progressive positions, thus the progressive shaft lean of the clubs. I'm glad middle of the stance for all clubs is working out for you, but it never worked for me.

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

Were you guys out there for the wind and the rain? I was playing National. It gets really interesting when the wind blows like that.

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Submitted by Nancy Krall (not verified) on

Keep a consistent ball position for the best contact swing after swing. I find I have the most trouble when I start varying my ball and body position.

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Submitted by TinaB (not verified) on

This has NOTHING to do with today's video, but add my name to the HOLE IN ONE CLUB!!!
I scored my first one EVER  on Sunday, on a par 3 to an island green.   From the red tees, about 85 yds;  used a PW.  I knew I had hit a pretty good shot but couldn't see it land because the pin was behind a large mounded sand bunker.   Got up to the green, couldn't find my ball.  Said "oh crud, probably hit the back of the mound, ran across the green and into the water".  My friend (thankfully had a witness!) said "maybe it's in the hole."  I went 'nah", but walked up to the cup, looked in, and THERE IT WAS!.  I let out a yell that half the golf course could have heard, and we stood and laughed and clapped and hollered and laughed some more. 
To top it off, I was playing in a pair of clog sandals because I left my golf shoes on the garage floor...I had to hit out of the bunkers and putt in my bare feet.  Thankfully, I didn't turn around and go home just because I forgot my shoes :)

Thank you, Surge, for a great swing
Thank you, Dave Seeman, for the one-day golf school lesson, and
Thank you, John Dranschack, for my custom fitted golf clubs.

WOOOHOOOOOO!!

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Submitted by SimplyGolf (not verified) on

Oh to be 10....
We weighed 57 pounds. Gravity and time had not yet taken their toll. Plus, we were all energized and invincible and had stuff we needed to do.
Pain? Ain't got time for that nonsense.

There is something empowering about freedom.

Happy July 4th all...

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Submitted by Teeon13golf (not verified) on

Contact ball and club manufacturer. Send them scorecard signed by club pro.

July 7, 2003 was my day on home course in Bartlett, Il.

205 yard par three..one bounce and bingo! Sent my card to Callaway ( 7 wood ) and Nike (Mojo). Received plaque and certificate from both.

Awesome feeling, was it not? Only regret was my golfiing buddies had to carry me home. Too much celebration!

Congrats Tina B!

Phillip

Congrats!

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Hi Philip. You're still battling yourself and the little round ball, eh? Aren't we all. Yes I have to humbly admit that all my thoughts and suggestions were from over three years of following Surge. So no credit to me but it is nice to know I am 'getting it'. If I could only follow and perform all I know as well. Just today after posting the above advice Cindy and I played 18 and she busted me several times on my alignment. So I started laying my driver down before each drive and likewise on the fairways. It works. It's allowed as long as you pick up your club before you swing. Of course my shots improved right away. Surge says even though this is by far the best way to assure and train ourselves on alignment that few do it (lay a club down) before or after. Is it ego? Is it because no one else does it? Frankly I don't care who I'm playing with or who's watching I'll check my alignment.
BTW, Cindy had a beauty of a birdy on the par three #3 at muni today. 90 yards for her from the tee to 15 feet past the stick then drained her putt. She's 100% Surge trained as it's the only method she knows!

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Submitted by SimplyGolf (not verified) on

A good swing from the ground up....

Don, I've not heard much about Shoes. In northern California, I sometimes play a laid back course where I see everything from hiking boots to Tevas to flip flops to bare feet.  (Only here on the left coast, in the land of fruits and nuts.)  

Our feet take an incredible amount of punishment. There is so much going on with each foot: supination, pronation, and any other issues we may have, that getting professionally fitted seems essential. (It has been for me. I broke the arch in my foot while running, because I had...ugh...inadequate shoes. Never again. Take the time, pay the money, and get good footwear.)

True Confession: in real life, I often play 9 holes with my running shoes. Great ergonomics and footbed support, really comfortable. Anything beyond that, I wear my Eccos, which bring even more support, but are....clunky. Would love a pair of the   Ecco Streets, but I don't have an extra $140 kicking around.)

Any podiatrists or shoe pros out there:  like to...uhm....step up and talk about this?

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Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

Yes I ordered a Jumbo Max regular yesterday or the day before, can't recall for sure. Darn memory.

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Submitted by jim on

This is one parameter that I have modified more for me than be as close to recommendations.  I have found on par threes, teed up irons I am fairly constant, middle to slightly ahead.  Teed Driver, left heel.

But, in order for me to get up and thru the ball best, all my off the turf shots are quite abit more forward than most others would play here.  I hit a 21/25 deg.hybrids in replacing 3,4 irons, and hit them well - but close to the driver position - left heel.  My irons, off turf, are just slightly behind that.  Always has worked easier for good air time, could be a flaw but I gotta just do that.  

I hope the teaching clinic comes out to Las Vegas again, as I missed out a couple of years ago, and could really use a one-day long school.
Jim in Mesa, AZ.

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Submitted by SimplyGolf (not verified) on

Our Kenyan (and other) friends run forever on bare feet too. Amazing.

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Submitted by Roy Reed (not verified) on

Tina:  Congratulations on the AWESOME hole-in-one!!!!!  I've never had one but came really close a few times.  One of our foresome "regulars" got one last November and it was fun to watch it roll in the hole from about 145 yards.  As always, keep hitten 'em straight!  r2

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Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Neil, I'm sure both were no less satisfying because you had noone to witness them.  I've had a couple of unlikely holeouts for eagle from 75 yards plus where I just looked up, laughed out loud, and said "thank you".  Made me feel kinda silly since I was playing alone both times, but sure didn't diminish the feeling.

It may be something that comes with age, but I've often paused during a round and thought to myself how fortunate I am to be playing this game.  It makes no difference whether it's a good or bad round.  There always seems to be that one shot or hole that brings us back.

I've yet to score that elusive ace or shoot a round of par golf, but the challenge is what brings me back.  Maybe it's the journey and not the destination, but as long as the Man upstairs sees fit to allow it, I'll just enjoy the trip. ;0)

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Submitted by Wilsobm (not verified) on

Great tips, THANKS.
I seem to pull across the ball too much.  Is there a helper routine to correct the pull?
Bud

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Submitted by shortgamewizard (not verified) on

 I have found in teaching putting that a perfect stroke does not always go On-On-On because the eyes aren't parallel to the aim line. See if Cindy can see where yours are aimed at. The style of putter or stroke has little to do with eye alignment.

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