Proper PLHR Address Position

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:32 -- Don Trahan

There are many unique features of the Peak Performance Golf Swing that make it so simple and body friendly. One of them has to do with the setup position. Roy Mullen sent in a question asking about being pre-loaded heavy right. He is having some issues with where his weight should be in relation to his feet. The first thing that you all should know is that one foot is always set up in the same spot no matter what club you've got in your hands.

Watching your swing in the daily videos and instructional videos show both feet flat on the ground, centered in the foot. When I slide slightly back to the pre-loaded heavy right position my weight shifts so that it rolls to the outside of the right foot. I have to consciously shift it back to the center of my foot to keep the foot flat on the ground. Am I doing something wrong so that the weight shifts to the outside edge of my foot. What problems could occur as a result of this weight shift? 
Roy, if you're shifting your weight so that it rolls outside of your foot, that's not good. I think you're shifting it too far. Remember that your stance should be about as wide as your shoulder width. The only foot that gets wider after that is the forward foot and that's dependent on what club you have. But, the right foot (for a right handed golfer) should always be in the same place with every golf club. So, let's establish that place.
 
I'm going to repeat myself. We play the back foot in the same place with every golf club! I think that Roy's foot is probably too narrow. The knee cap should be over the center of the ankle. If you stand up with your weight equally between both feet, just pick your belt up and move it about one inch to the right. This is the PLHR position that you should be in. If your feet are in an improper place when you get pre-loaded heavy right, you could find yourself losing your balance and being unable to make any turn at all. You'll also have to push forward just so you don't fall backwards.
 
Make sure to watch the video today because I think it's going to be a lot easier for you to grasp these ideas visually. I'll show you exactly where your feet, knees, hips, shoulders, and head all need to be for the perfect setup position.
 
Keep it vertical!
 
The Surge
 
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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Thoroughly enjoyed this one Surge, thankyou.
Like most of us [I am sure], we all tend to overdo things when they are new to us. Me all over. I will recheck my position again. My heel or ankle over during the through swing is the 'rear foot pushing off'. I do PLHR and of late have thought I was overdoing it. Now I am finding it much easier to transfer my weight forward.
A couple of times recently I have thought perhaps my stance with the longer clubs may have been a little wider than it should have been.So a timely reminder. DH

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Submitted by golffanatic on

I realize this probably isn't the right place to post this since it is about the
importance of the short game. I live in Minnesota and played golf Wednesday
and Thursday this week. I am a die hard as it was 45 degrees with no wind.
The greens and fairways haven't been mowed in over two weeks.

I had a fantastic short game on the front nine on Thursday. I only hit one
green in regulation and missed a 10 foot birdie putt. I chipped in for 2
birdies and had only 10 putts for the entire round. Shot an even par on
the front. Of course I couldn't keep it up on the back nine.

Lynn

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Submitted by Lynn42 on

It's always the right place to post a good round. I'm distance challenged and if my short game is on I can play a decent round. Two chip in birdies and 10 putts would certainly work for me. ;0)

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Good job Lynn. Ironically, we learned from Kenny Knox that there are many of the shorter shots (say under 60 yards) where we not only don't per-load right but are best off setting up with our weight on the front foot. This keeps us stable on these less than full pitch and chip shots and also in the bunkers.
That has helped me be more stable and accurate with less movement of the lower body.

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Lynn, Right place or not, glad that you had a good time. The short game is the way to lower our scores and handicaps, no doubt about that at all.
My short game is my saving grace most of the time. Love my wedges and short irons. Using the PPGS swing has increased my accuracy out of sight.
PHLR is a vital component of that improvement. It has started to make my long game, much more enjoyable as well. Checked my stance and width thereof after watching today's video. Happy with the results I saw in the reflection on the patio glass doors.
Good luck on your next outing.
With your course not having been mowed, you should get plenty of practice out of the rough on the fairways heh heh heh! DH in wet NZ

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Submitted by boogmc on

It doesn't get any simpler than this! Nice daily Surge,It's ones like this that are keeping my mind sharp on the game.

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Submitted by resumez@cox.net on

Surge Nation:

Today was another good day on the course -- at least "better than most" lol

Once again, it was cool early morning weather, but later in the day warm and sunny. Tdiay we had the #1 pin placements --- tends to make the front nine a stroke or two easier, but back nine two or three strokes more difficult. And so it went -- I scored a 40 on the front, 44 on the back for an 84 total -- about 3 or 4 strokes below my average.

Now for the stats -- 13 of 14 fairways, 165 yda avg but only 2 GIR !
1 Birdy, 6 pars 9bogies and 2 double bogies (1 in each nine)
2 Bunkers, 2 Sand saves (VERY unusual for me!)
7 one putts for 29 putts used.

All in all, the LONG and MEDIUM games were very good, short game good, but not quite "up to my standards" -- specially cmopared to WEDNESDAY when the short game was "on fire"

Shot of the day : a 7W to the par 3 3rd hole -- finished aobut 10 inches form the pin -- THAT is exceedingly rare indeed.
Almost as good -- on the par 3 13th -- skulled my 8I tee shot into the water - decided to hit another from the tee, rather than going to the drop area -- "2nd effort" was lovely 8I to 5 feet below the hole - made the putt for bogie 4 -- OH for a "Mulligan" LOL!

Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

Amos

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Keep this up and we'll here about you shooting your age some day!
Congratulations on another good round.

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Submitted by resumez@cox.net on

Robert;

Maybe in 1- or 12 yeras - -when I am 83 or 84 -- and probably p;aying form the reds by then LOL

Amos

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Submitted by Tedster on

I watched this video lesson 4 times and am apparently missing something simple and important: If the right foot is always placed the same, doesn't that mean being the same relative to ball position? If so, how does one move the ball position forward for the Driver? I have been keeping the left foot in the same place and moving the right foot. Hm-m-m-m.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I know what you are saying Tedster.
I would never phrase it like Surge does either. "Leaving the right foot the same" (in the way we are thinking about it) is impossible if the ball moves progressively forward in the stance.

I am sure that what he means is that the body pre-loaded over the right foot stays the same with every club, and the left foot moves forward. Of course the unsaid part of that description is that the ball would have to move forward as well.

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Submitted by shortgamewizard on

As the clubs get longer, the ball is played more forward and the stance gets slightly wider. This lets the center of the body mass stay in the PLHR position.

If you put in ball position in the Search box on the top right of the page it will give a lot of past dailies that will help.