Hitting Down vs. Swinging Up AFAP

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 19:26 -- Don Trahan

One of the biggest misconceptions in golf is that you should hit down on the ball. With the Peak Performance Golf Swing, I teach swinging up as fast as possible (AFAP). Some of you seem a bit confused with the concept of swinging up because I continuously get questions asking about what should be happening from impact to the finish.

I don't like the word "down" when teaching the golf swing. Hitting down and staying down are two things that most amateurs think they have to do, when it fact they shouldn't be doing either one. Even before impact, I'm already thinking of swinging up because that is the natural movement of the swing that starts with the bump. I don't bump down into the ball. Instead, it's a lateral, left shift that takes me up through the swing to the T-finish.

Just like a pitcher before throwing towards the plate or a tennis player before smacking a serve, we load into the right side and explode up. Like a pop tart out of a toaster, I want you swinging up and standing up As Fast As Possible!

Keep it vertical,

The Surge!
Don Trahan
PGA Master Professional

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Submitted by Wfordham1 (not verified) on

Don; It is a word game "DOWN" and you are adding to the confusion. It is obviously down until impact. Up can't occur until after impact since the ball is on the ground. You said that you are thinking about up just after you begin the down swing. Thats fine as long as you don't do waht you are thinking until after impact. Up occurs after impact whether it is AFAP or just fast enough to hit the ball solid, ball flight isn't affected  if after impact-back injury--maybe.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

 It really could be a number of things that could be causing that.
You could be swinging straight down at the ball from the top.
You could be reverse weight shifting instead of transferring your weight to the front foot.
You could be doing the opposite and getting ahead of the ball causing the swing to be too steep.

I would say to find a place in the grass where you don't mind if you accidentally tear it up and make a lot of practice swings with your weight transferring smoothly and let the club fall from the top and just brush the grass until you get a feel for where the ground is.

Most people that I see on the course that are having problems are never getting to their front leg. A guy in front of me Sunday never once even had his front foot on the ground at impact and was falling backward. He almost had no choice but to either hit it fat or thin.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

 People hear the words "trap the ball and compress it against the ground" so often that all of the common sense they ever had flies out the window and they believe it.

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

I'm always amused by the idea that people think they can "trap the ball between the club face and the ground" when you're using a club where the face angle is 40* or more off the shaft. A little simple geometry will show you that, to actually "trap" the ball, you'd have to be hitting it with the shaft so far ahead of the club head that the ball would be about a foot behind your feet and your hands would be no more than a foot-and-a-half off the ground. Not exactly a position conducive to a good golf strike. 

(had to fix an autocorrect incorrect correction)

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

From PGATour.com's Tour Report: "2:42 p.m. — D.J. Trahan, who went to school at nearby Clemson, withdrew with a back injury. He played one hole."

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Submitted by Allen Hacker (not verified) on

I get what David is saying.  As I watch your slow-mo near the end of the video, I see that your head does not begin to come up until the club is parallel to the ground.  What is coming up before then, as you make contact in fact, is your left shoulder.  So it may be that you are both correct.  David is judging the beginning of your upmotion from what he sees your head do.  But you experience upward motion kinetically before your head starts to move, because you do not stand up from the head, but from the shoulder.

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Submitted by Doc Griffin (not verified) on

I'm assuming you mean on the bottom of the club and not on the face of the club.  Problem is that he didn't have a club upright as much as you needed.

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Submitted by Kurt Mathews (not verified) on

I have been a Surgite for well over a year, and I must say, I disagree with Don on this point.  Clubs are designed to strike DOWN on the ball.  They work best imparting a descending blow and compressing the golf ball.  Sorry, but swinging up creates more problems than it causes.  I just think there is a better way to make the point about a solid finish.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

There is nothing wrong with using Surge's teachings and tweaking them to fit your individual needs. All of us do that to one degree or another, whether we want to or not.

You can look at any of our swings and not one of us will be exactly like Surge, including DJ.

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

We intend to strike the ball slightly before, but as close as possible to the apogee of the swing, but that's not the point. The setup and swing take care of that. The biggest problem most golfers have is deceleration before impact. By thinking about clipping the ball cleanly off the grass and swinging up to the finish, we eliminate that problem. Get the ball out of your head and focus on the swing. If you set up properly and swing properly the ball gets in the way and has no choice but to go where you want it to go.

If you're thinking about hitting down on the ball, your focus is the ball and the swing ends there or shortly after. 

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Submitted by Kurt Mathews (not verified) on

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