Club Length Not Based On Height

Finding the right clubs is an important part of advancing your game. Many people go into large, retail stores and expect to find the perfect club just by swinging it a few times. Unfortunately, getting fit for clubs isn't that easy, and it shouldn't be. Our bodies are all different from one another, so each club must be measured and custom fit for us. The same goes for taller golfers and shorter golfers.

Robert Thistle and James McCormack both sent in questions about finding the right clubs based on their height. They are both 6'4". So, does this mean that they're going to have the same length club?

Don,
Thanks for the driver length information. How about irons? I’m a new golfer 6’4” tall. I never played when I was younger because the longer clubs I presumed I needed were far too expensive. Now that I’m a little older (67) and clubs are less expensive, I’ve bought a set that is 2” longer. Should I add the 2 inches to any other clubs I add to my set as I improve? Is there a length formula based on my height?

Secondly, are there any of your certified swing instructors in Denver Colorado?

Thanks for all the great info, it's helped me get going with the game.
Bob T.

James then followed with his question:

Dear Don,
Your instruction regarding "proper club length" was very helpful. I'm a big guy (6'-4" with 37 1/2" sleeve length). I've been using extra long clubs. When I attempted to swing vertically, I began hitting very THIN SHOTS. Your club length video prompted me to try shorter clubs. As a starting point, I decided to grip down on the shaft about 1 1/2"-2". All of a sudden I'm hitting the ball straight with good trajectory and not falling back on the shot.
Does this make sense to you???
Please respond,
Jim McCormack

So, I've got 2 guys who both list themselves at 6'4". The first thing we've got to do is look at the sleeve length. Since Robert didn't provide his, let's say he has a 33 inch sleeve. Jim said his sleeve length was 37 1/2". So, who needs longer clubs?

Robert, with the shorter arms, would need the longer clubs, even though he's the same height as Jim. The reason for this is because we don't use height as a determining factor for club length. We actually use a wrist to floor measurement. Arm length is a big factor, but some other factors can also come into play. One golfer could have shorter legs and a long torso or the other way around.

Robert also asked if there is a formula for length based on his height? The answer is no, the actual formula is to look at the length from your wrists to the ground. Fitters have charts that have been worked out over time which tells you what you need based on those measurements.

Here's another example that I've used before. DJ is 6'3" and I'm 5'9". But, the interesting thing is that we have the same arm length (35 inches). 35 inches is a reasonable arm length for DJ, but it's really long for me. So, I play clubs that are anywhere from an inch to two inches short based on today's standards. I've had ladies come to golf schools, and even their clubs are longer than mine. This is just an example of how body parts determine club length, not your height.

I think the fitters will back me up when I say there is no formula to build clubs based solely on your height. They get it by measuring your wrist to floor length.

A lot of times you can see golfers heels come up off the ground. This is typically because their brain is compensating for the length of the club. By lifting up, it allows for them to straighten the arms out at impact, which wouldn't be possible otherwise.

The bottom line here is that you need to get to a good fitter, get measured, and get into a set of clubs built specifically for you. Your buddy may be the same height as you, but his clubs are most likely not going to work for you.

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Keep it vertical!

The Surge

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Yes, and.......

Surge, all very true. Additionally, I have read elsewhere and observed while watching the PGA players that shorter players tend to swing flatter and taller players tend to be more naturally upright swingers of the golf club. Likely one simple reason is they learned to play golf with "standard"that length clubs which may (arm length aside) have caused them to be either flatter or more upright. Habits developed before finding the PPGS.
However, arm length is a big factor along with skill. A longer club is normally just more challenging for most players and most would be better off with shorter clubs. Again the best move would to be fit by a PPGS fitter nearest you.

A fitting is not always done right

It is best to have your fitting done by a PPGS fitter for a certainty or by a fitter with a good reputation that is certified and will do a thorough job.
Quick experience: My brother who has also played golf for years but not very frequently in recent years needed a new driver a few years ago. One day we were to play and he had forgotten his sticks and had to rent a set at the course. This was about 4 years ago and the hot set from Calaway at the time was the X clubs.

In the rented set was this driver
http://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/x460-tour-drivers/drivers-x460-tour,default,pd.html

Well he was hitting it an average of 275 mostly down the middle and on one hole he hit a drive over 325 yards and we had to apologize to the group in front of us for hitting that close to the green. He decided right there that day that he had to get that driver. Well he couldn't buy "that" driver and had to go to the in town Callaway Center where they offered what they called a fitting for the same one. A few minutes on a monitor and some judgments on a shaft choice and he felt he was going to have the driver of his dreams. So he bought the driver and the matching 3 wood too. He has never hit his new driver anywhere nearly as well or consistently since. Moral of the story. First if you are lucky enough to stumble on a trail club that is ideal (and that's a long shot at best), buy that one, period. As Surge says, the normal half baked routine is a partial fitting and a few rather quick decisions and then they either mail it to you in a box and you hope it fits or you pick it up a few days later with the shaft, head and grip and hope it plays the way it seemed when you tried one out. That's not a fitting and partial at best. Very likely the shaft will be be wrong and long. Not enough room to explain how much goes into a real fitting but 'Doc' Lynn Griffin has some great information on his web site that may be a great place for any of you to start.

While there look around, Doc has some wonderful information and videos to help you make a more informed decision.
http://www.thegolfstop.net/Blank.html

It is an amazing experience and I highly recommend a real fitting either from the master (Griffin) or one of the PPGS fitters nearest you.

Ladies Clubs

Here's a different spin, Robert. (Forgive the pun)

At my local Golf Galaxy, I noticed (with an almost endless selection of clubs) shoppers apparently selected based on price, marketing hype and "playability". That's how I bought my first set of clubs. The GG people were nice, and did pretty ok, Adam's A3 with Grafalloy R red shafts (off the shelf) but they were and are limited in what they can offer fitting wise.

You would NOT believe how many used "mistake" sets are for sale at GG ! "Please, someone, come buy me. We can work things out." A wrong set is costly in several ways. If one can afford it, seems getting fit makes so much sense.

I was stunned when one salesperson recently made a suggestion to me: ladies clubs. And I actually had no problem with that, the pale-blue Cobra lady shafts notwithstanding. Now we were getting somewhere.

Not surprisingly, our upright, more vertical swing element seemed a bit more easily achieved than with the comparable men's set. But my speed also got a nice little bump, too. Not PPGS fitted clubs, mind you, but it was certainly worth noting the feedback. (BTW- I am 6'1" and weigh 190 & I really could care less they were "Ladies Clubs". I care about the feedback.)

That sales guy seemed puzzled by the "slightly unusual" upright swing I used.

When I explained that I was interested in a swing with body-friendly mechanics, he gave a somber but affirming nod. This poor guy held up his braced left wrist, and then gave just a little smile. Turns out he was a lefty-turned-righty because of damage done from years of rotational stuff.

Needless to say, he now swings with a firm left wrist, and a quieter turn.

Sometimes you have to find a person that's has endured pain
to get some more objective feedback.

BTW- I'm watching coverage from Pebble Beach, and I'm reminded why I stay in Northern California. Our taxes are just miserable, our government is inept,
but wow....our landmarks are simply stunning.

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Golf Galaxy

I try really hard to like our local Golf Galaxy here in Las Vegas. It is the closest thing we have to a 'fitter' here- that I have found in town any way. There is actually no PPGS fitter or even Wishon qualified fitter. The guys at GG are nice and somewhat knowledgeable and certainly helpful but there 'fittings' are by no means sufficient. Actually the coolest thing they have is the Mizuno fitting cart and computer that measures swing tempo. Though I am still a long shot away, i actually have a vision of some day becoming a PPGS fitter, maybe. Mean while I am having fun building my own clubs in my garage. I still lack a few key tools. gradual investments:)
Speaking of California. it is my favorite State. iv'e lived there twice, both times on the coast in Orange County. You are right in everything you said about Cal. I love Nor Cal too. I was PPGS fit by a man just outside of San Francisco. worth every dime. more on that later.

Keep 'em down the middle

Club Fitter

We did a stint there too, Robert. Too bad it still costs a small fortune and a kidney to live there. That's the marketplace speaking.

Monarch Bay area is stunning. Newport Coast. Talega. Dana Point.
All very nice. Also, there is a really cool public course down in San Clemente.

The left coast has it's fruits and nuts, but...also some on the best coastline
on the planet, from San Diego clear up to the coastal redwoods and beyond,
with hundreds of stunning beaches in between.

When you get your certification, please let the Nation know. The flight from Norcal to LV is pretty short. I'm sure you will be a top-notch PPGS fitter.

Pebble beach

My driver played at Pebble Beach last year. Hahahaha!

The college kid I gave it to (now graduated) was living out there last year and he played there.

He moved back to Tuscaloosa last fall and bought a new driver and gave mine back to me.

Funny thing about that driver was that I could hit it exceptionally well when I originally had it. Now that I've got it back I don't hit it nearly as well.
Must be the Indian. LOL

I suppose I shouldn't expect to be as good as I was back then when I was 5 years younger and played golf almost every single day (and from daylight to dark on any day off of work).

Right now not a single part of my game is as good as it should be, but then again I always think that at this time of the year. Most of the other guys I play with aren't lighting up the scorecard either so maybe we'll all come around at the same time. I three putted an eagle putt Saturday when a birdie would have won the money. Of course if I had gotten up and down from inside of 25 yards one of the five times I failed to do it that three putt wouldn't have mattered so much. (Pathetic).

5 Years Younger

Yeah Smith, the clock, unfortunately, moves one direction.

I guess that's part of the reason we are here on this site :
On a quest to play smarter, not harder.

Optimistic, informed adaptation.

And success, perhaps, will need to be (re) defined in
different ways, relative to where we are in our
game, but also in our lives.

Uhm....OK. Lol. "Is that you, Grasshopper ?"

Grasshopper

One phrase from that show made me spending money in college. LOL
"When you can take the pebble from my hand it will be time for you to leave."

I realized that if I modified it to a quarter instead of a pebble, and whoever took the quarter got to keep it, my business was off and running.

All I had to do was find someone that took so much pride in being quick that they would part with their money to try to prove it.

The point guard on the basketball team was my best client. He just didn't know when to quit and daily donated me 5 or 10 dollars.

P.S. Of course his business was even better than mine. He walked up and down the halls at the dorm at midnight knocking on doors and selling cheese sandwiches for $1.00 apiece and pretty much everybody in the dorm would buy at least one. ;-)

Set Up

LOL....wait, Did you buy his cheese sandwiches?

Now I wonder who set up who.

Sandwiches

Are you kidding? Hahaha
I never passed up on a cheese sandwich in my life. As a matter of fact I may go make one right now.

I bought at least 4 of them every night...with his money. LOL

Oh the west coast :)

SG,

You just named most of my favorite places in SoCal. My cousin and his family lived in Dana point and we visited there nearly every year for all 15 they lived there. We lived briefly in Laguna Niguel for afew months on the way back to Las Vegas after living on the North Oregon Coast for 3 years (long but good story).

Ah, Newport Beach. 5 years ago I lived on the cliffs above the Montage Resort and Spa in Laguna Beach when i was working at the Pelican Hill Spa (no I never was able to play either of there two amazing golf courses). Awesome experience. I was there for about 8 months and returned to LV for family reasons.
Considered moving to San Diego, actually close to Phils home north of there by Del Mar and Torre Pines.

As for the PPGS fitter thing, hey don't appoint me yet. I said I was looking into it and it is a possibility. Don't know how life's turns will take me. It is an interest along with some other ideas:) Who knows.

California dreaming again...............

Nice Area

RM, that area is really nice. The Montage, Pelican Hill and that entire area, just awesome. It's driving distance to my piece of heaven called Crystal Cove. RV people take note: you gotta stay at nearby El Moro State Park if you ever do a road trip thru south Orange County, CA. Bring your clubs & boogey boards. I digress.

Del Mar and Torrey Pines areas also are incredible. Great golf, too.

Acknowledged- PPGS fitter certification will come when it does. No presumptions, that's clear. Don and Doc have high standards, I'm sure. It will come. Your expertise and passion for things PPGS is quite evident.

Spin Rate too high

Surge,

In an attempt to increase my launch angle and to increase ball carry, I have tried a 12 degree loft driver here in the preseason. This loft selection is up from my normal 10.5 degrees that I hit about 10.5 degrees at launch.

My launch angle with the 12 degree driver has increased to 15 degrees but my spin rate is near 4400 rpm! This is with my preseason swing but was up as high as 5200 across 10 swings of the club. An effort to change to the lowest spin rate clubs with correct shafts on the market only got me down to 3800rpm. I believe there may be a bigger problem with my swing that is causing an 86 mph swing speed to spin at such a high rate.

Can you comment on the mechanics of the swing I might pay closer attention to in order to correct what seems to be a deep angle to the ball that generates so much spin. My last 3 day tune -up was three years ago with Greg MacDonell at Old South.

Thank you,

Gary O. Louisville, KY

Spin Rate

More loft produces more spin. That's one of the things that causes the ball to launch higher. Also, I have to ask, just what are you being tested on? Since you mention it's preseason, I'm guessing that you're using some sort of simulator? If so, they are at best, unreliable. If you are using a flightscope or Trackman, then the data is pretty reliable. So, you may want to look at the golf ball as well. Or, you may not want to be concerned at all. On the shots that had the high spin rate, what was the angle of descent? If it was between 37* and 42* then it was perfect and the spin rate is not too high. You have to look at all the parameters involved and most "clerks" in a golf shop really aren't going to be much help. There are spin rates and then there are spin rates. The ideal spin rate is not the same for everyone.

PS A good launch monitor can also tell you the angle of attack on your swing as to whether you are hitting down on the ball with the driver. I would not think this an issue as you would not have jumped 5* in launch angle going from a 10.5* to a 12*.

High Spin Rate

Thanks Doc for your expert analysis.

I do not not know what the device was I was being tested on. I stepped onto the indoor tee, warmed up with a few swings while the club fitter prepared the club and then he read from the tester as I hit a few shots with the Anser 12* driver. (I moved to PING for more loft 2 years ago) He read and commented from the tester along with my friend who is the regional Adams Golf rep. The stainless steel 12" x 18" box had about 5 digital readouts but I apologize I don't know what tester it was. This was indoor at a local golf shop where I know many of the associates and often go to demo clubs.

My term preseason simply meant I had not had an opportunity to play nor practice since late October of last year. My swing could have been a bit rusty but my tempo felt pretty good considering the time I have been idol. It seems the rate of descent was a necessary consideration and one criteria I did not hear stated. I left the shop a bit miffed and discouraged and decided to reach out to you or the Surge.

I had read something in a Taylormade Golf article that the perfect launch and spin one could consider was 17* @ 1700 rpm. I hear you clearly that everyone has a different number and of course a different swing. Comparison can be a trap. I just want to play good golf with the best tools for my game as I age toward the senior years. I am 56 years old and played as a 14 handicap last year. Doc I am going to plan a trip this spring to Old South to meet with Greg and see if I can get on your schedule while I pass through Columbia. Thanks again, Gary O.

You were right all the time

Doc

Thought you might get a kick out of this. During some of my club tech training, we were discussing club length. One of the other techs from a different store said he was surprised that most people's clubs are toooooooo long for them. I said I already knew that before I started the program. They asked me how I would know that. I said my friend Doc Griffin, who just happens to be rated as a "Top 100 fitter," has always said that. As I have gone through the fitting program for each of the major club manufactures, I have found that they know it too. It seems they all know most golfers should be using a driver in the 44" to 45" range. They also know that most golfers want to "get the extra yards that come with the longer drivers." So, it is a vicious circle. The people with the money talks, and the people with the money want longer drivers. At least, until they are properly fit, and find out longer ain't always longer. In our fitting manuals, they say most golfers would be better served with shorter drivers. I was very pleased to see the rest of the world is finally catching on to what you have been teaching us all this time.

You were right all the time. But, we all knew that already.

Dick

Me, Right?

Thanks Dick. That's nice to hear! HA HA

Thnx Doc

I'd like to take this opportunity and thank Doc Griffin for fitting me with the correct length clubs. I'm 6'3" and was previously "fitted" with longer clubs because of my height and not the distance of my hands or wrist from the ground. I remember Doc saying to me that my 5 iron was actually a weak lofted 1 iron because it was 2" longer than required for my w.t.f. measurement (37" I think).

Now I'm hitting the ball much better and my swing has also changed a little for the better as I've weeded out some of the compensatory moves in my swing due to the inappropriately fit clubs. Therefore I can personally vouch for the axiom that "better golf is just a fit away". I am also looking forward to a follow up session with Doc sometime in the near future even if it means a trip to Columbia, SC (I know Doc is not a fan of 15 hour long haul flights :-)

BTW I've moved to Perth to start a new job and lifestyle after being made redundant from my old manufacturing job in Sydney. So I'll update my personal details so I don't miss out on PPGS fitting and coaching lessons when it comes back down under (if it doesn't come to Perth due to lack of numbers then I will fly over to Sydney for a few days no probs).

Been a while

long time ,no see there Craig. Good to see you took the opportunity to see Doc while he was down under. That is something I would like to do myself, if he comes down this way again. I think your making the right move there. Give me Perth over Sydney any day.
cheers Russty

Good onya Russty

Alas I've been distracted from spending some blog time on the PPGs site, I still watch the daily homily and read a few comments. Its been a stressful 18 months or so after seeing the writing on the wall at work and having to deal with a constant rotation of management and hr types wearing jackboots who think the company woes lie with those recalcitrant front line employees who in fact are busting their gut trying to keep the company viable. Can't compete with your contemporary in the orient who earns half a bowl of rice a day. Anyway I'm "moving forward" and moved west to the lovely Perth. I know there are a few Surgites over in this area and hopefully enough to warrant a visit by Doc and hopefully Surge or any of the PPGS team. Its good to hear from you Russty and I hope the Surge, Doc and the PPGS team pay a visit to the land of the long white cloud because they will fall in love with the place and won't want to leave :-) regards Craig

Thanx

You are most welcome and my best to you on the new ventures.

fitting

I cannot find a fitter in Europe, as far as I know, Leo van Bennekom is also a fitter, but he is not on your list.

Correct. We do not yet have a

Correct. We do not yet have a certified fitter in Europe. Hopefully we will be able to fix that in 2013. Email us at support@swingsurgeon.com.

Craig 63

Hey Craig,
Nice to hear from you. We have missed your comments here. Glad your okay and having a life altering adventure. Good you're still playing golf. Thanks for stopping by and visiting us. i recall you were one who added a bit of spice and sharp humor that makes for a smile or two. Hope you're well and do keep us posted as to how your move to Perth works out.

Thnx Robert

I haven't been able to spend much time on the site, just watching the daily video and reading comments from distinguished bloggers like yourself and all the other veterans :-). Distractions from a enforced change in my work life is the culprit but I'm moving forward and starting to enjoy life again, regards Craig

Good to see you on again

Craig

As I can confirm, some times life gets in the way of our plans.

Keep your chin up mate, it will all work out.

It is good to hear from you. Keep us up to date on how you are doing.

God bless,
Dick

Glad for you

Good deal Craig. Glad to hear life is taking a better turn now and you'll be able to enjoy it more. Make sure golf remains an included part of that good life pal.
Take care :) and hit 'em long and straight.

Charlie Y

I always enjoyed the posts from Charlie and generally gained a little more insight into this thing called a golf swing. I hope he is doing well.

Charlie

He said he was doing pretty well except for some vision problems he is having to work through.

I always enjoy chatting with Charlie because he is much smarter than I am and approaches things from an intellectual standpoint where I just approach things from more of a feel standpoint. I don't know the first thing about physics but I usually have a knack for how to make the body get from point A to point B with as much power and as fast as possible.

Added a lot

Yes, Charlie Y always added an intellectual angle and perspective. Glad to hear he's doing alright and wish him well.
I am actually getting further away from the details of mechanics and more into what can help me control those peaks and valleys during a round of golf. After the great -2 start I had last week I let my mind and emotions take too much control and then did not finish well. I know I have the swing now and it is a matter of the mental side now.

Thanks Surge, IM going this

Thanks Surge, IM going this Wed to get fitted for my new driver and maybe a few others? As I said before, im 5' 4" or so, small frame, seems like most clubs are to long for me, but, we shall see. I hope it all works out well for me, needed a driver forever. IM thinking I want a little loft also, hope im right.
Thanks for all of your help, wish I could take this video with me Wed, but, he may not like that!

Great news

That's wonderful that you are finally going for a fitting and your new driver.
You mentioned them not liking it if you take along this video. Marylynn, the buyer has the right to do as you see 'fit' (pun intended). It is your money and I'm sure this is a really, really big deal for you. You have a right to be knowlegable about what a good fitting is and not be taken advantage of. Kind of like going to a doctor. You can ask all the questions you feel necessary. It's your money. The buyer is king (or queen) regardless of the attitude and conduct of the seller. Be brave, be bold. Who cares if they think you are picky. You should be!
Here's my suggestion, go to my link to Lynn Griffin's web site and his page on what a good feeling constitutes. I'll leave it here again for you. Take a look, study it and write down his list of what is involved in a proper fitting.

http://www.thegolfstop.net/Blank.html

Note the "What we measure" list and read and watch everything on the whole site. Write down the list and yes, take it with you!!

Thank you so much, I for sure

Thank you so much, I for sure will do that! At least I will have all the right questions to ask. IM going to Dick's Sporting, his card says, PGA Gold Professional and he seemed nice when I talked to him last December, wish me good luck!

Thanks again for all of your help!

They are not Doc

I know the folks at Dick's are not like going to see Doc, but they should do a good job for you. I am the club tech at one of the Dick's out here in OKC. The fitting program is pretty in-depth. Every store has a PGA pro, and a club tech. We ask a lot of questions and do a detailed fitting workup. You just need to tell him what you are looking for, and he should be able to work with the PPGS just fine. I have seen every swing type you can imagine, and some you can't imagine.

Let us know how it turns out,
Dick

Fitting

I had a fitting yesterday. No Flightscope or launch monitor involved, but it was a fitting. I learned pretty quickly the shaft...err handle on the snow shovel I was using was too long. I switched to a shorter handle and a smaller headed shovel and shovel head speed definitely improved as did the launch angle.

Wellllll...It was golf related...sorta. ;0)

Spring

Those frozen souls in the northwest...........Buuuurrrrrrr.
Spring will come but not soon enough. Keep digging Lynn, it'll keep you in golf shape if it doesn't do you in !!

That does not fit

Lynn

You did not have a fitting, you just had a fit.

If we get the snow they are calling for on Tuesday, you can come out here, and I will personally fit you to the proper snow shovel. I would recommend throwing @ 10 shovels with each head, and then 10 with each handle. By the time we are done, you will know exactly which one fits you best.

The best part is that by the time you are done, my driveway will be cleared.

Everyone wins,
Dick

I hope your back is ok??

Back

Thank you for your concern. My back is fine. For anyone facing snow shoveling issues, I can personally tell you that posture, proper knee flex and outward pressure with a limited turn works as well with a shovel as it does swinging a golf club. As an added bonus it's a great cardio workout. Scoop, straight back over the toe line to the catcher's mitt, then let gravity be your friend and it's on on on square and solid to an abreviated T finish. Hmmm, I wonder if anyone has ever considered using shovels as a golf training aid.

Btw...I never missed a fairway. Once again Surge has saved my back. ;0)

Surge and his Snow Shovel

Lynn, Surge actually did a daily with his shovel a couple years back. Here's the link.
http://swingsurgeon.com/daily-video-tips/surge-and-snow-shovel

You are the man

Coach

As usual, you are right there when the Surge Nation needs you. Now maybe everyone will understand why I started calling you coach.

Thanks for reminding us of that video. I laughed as much while watching it as I did watching it the first time.

Speaking of snow, they are calling for 60% chance of snow for us tomorrow. The good news is that they have downgraded it to hopefully a light storm. I can live with that.

Hope you are doing well my friend,
Dick

Thanks

Thank you for the compliment, but just happened to catch the blog at the right time.

Yes, I am doing well and hope the same for you. Just passing time indoors waiting on Spring to spring. Winter seems to drag on more and more each year as I get more and more anxious to get the clubs out. Unfortunately, I live in an area where they are put away for a few months each year. I did manage one day of very wet play last month which is unusual for my area. Prior to that it was the mid to end of Nov that I last played with any regularity.

I hope your snow is light and does not stick around very long. It would be nice to live in an area where I could play all year round, but I think I would miss family and friends too much to ever move.

There is an indoor dome about 2hrs away, but with the cost of gas for 4hrs driving and then the cost of hitting balls or simulator play, it becomes too expensive for me to justify on a fixed income. Another month or so should allow some measure of play. I hope.

Keep it on, on, on, no matter what you're shoveling.

No golf tomorrow in Ok

Coach

Calling for cold and rainy most of the day for the whole darn place. The snow is supposed to start in the late afternoon. Now they are saying 4". I thought it was great that we got a couple of inches on Christmas day. But, enough is enough already. Should not be around long. Going to start getting warmer by Wednesday and then keep going up.

Glad you are doing ok.

Take heart my friend, spring is right around the corner,
Dick

No doubt

Dick I have no doubt your team does a great job at Dick's. You are really in a cool spot in life there it seems. Fun, isn't it? you get to play with golf clubs and then you go and play golf too:)
Hit 'em straight and long.

Life is good

Robert

I will say I am having a blast. I get to mess with clubs and help people every day. With the weather we have been having, the golf bears are coming out of their caves here in central Ok. It has been crazy busy. I am just about finished with the certified club tech program. I have enjoyed the learning process. One big benefit of doing the fittings, repairs, and learning is that it has helped my golf game. I have so much more understanding of the science end of what goes into a golf swing and what happens when the club head strikes the ball. Did not really see that coming.

Can't wait till I get the courses finished and get my cert. I will keep you posted.

Dick

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