Wedges - 7 Iron Are Hit Higher With PPGS

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 12:00 -- Don Trahan

I'm really excited to share today's question with the Surge Nation because it's one that I don't think I've ever had in the thousands of daily videos I've recorded over the last few years. It has to do with the relationship between the Peak Performance Golf Swing and ball flight. 

Ron Kriete has noticed that ever since he switched to the PPGS, he hits his wedges, 9, 8, and 7 irons all a lot higher than before. He says that he's hitting them straight, just very high and was wondering what causes this and if it's something to be worried about.

Surge, why do I often hit towering shots with the lower irons, 7-gap wedge? Very straight, but VERY high?

Ron K.

Well Ron, there's absolutely nothing wrong with hitting the ball high. This is actually one thing a lot of players mention to me when they see me hitting balls on the range.

Just go look at golfers like Jack Nicklaus, Tom Watson, Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw. In their primes and into their days on the Champions Tour, they all played behind the golf ball. They were playing golf with their arms straight at impact and they swung up to a very level finish. Even while they were swinging to a reverse "C", it caused the ball to go even higher. 

There's no problem hitting the ball high as long as it's penetrating and holding it's line. That means you're hitting it solid and relatively straight. There's nothing wrong with height on a golf shot, but you've got to be able to hit the ball low as well.

The key is to learn how to hit the ball lower when you have to. The way to do that is to cut off your follow through. You could also put the ball a little farther back in your stance. Either way, your ball flight will be lower if that's what the shot calls for.

Having a high ball flight can be an advantage because it allows the ball to land softly on the greens. This can be especially helpful if you're playing a course with really fast greens that are dry and baked out. So, use this aspect of the PPGS to your advantage!

Keep it vertical!

The Surge

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Submitted by Robert Fleck on

I do love the high ball flight we get with the PPGS. I've had people remark on it many times on the range, and it's really useful at the local course where I am now, as the greens even with rain are not overly receptive. The first time I played here, I kept looking for my pitch marks to fix them and couldn't find any.

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Submitted by ronniethebogieman on

I am a new poster. I tend to play the ball back a little when I am fighting the wind or hitting into the wind to keep it down.

Thanks Ronnie.

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Submitted by Robert Fleck on

Hi Ronnie,

Welcome to the site. I want to warn you about one thing in terms of playing the ball further back. Sometimes that will have the exact opposite effect of what you're looking for in terms of trajectory. That can, in fact, cause you to hit down through the ball, imparting a LOT of spin and causing the ball to balloon, rather than fly low and boring. You're better off keeping the ball position the same and adjusting your shoulder line and weight distribution. It's pretty much just like thinking about throwing a ball underhand. The higher you want it to go, the more you keep your weight back and tilt your shoulders up and finish high. The lower you want it to go, the more you keep your weight balanced and your shoulders level and finish low.

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Submitted by ronniethebogieman on

Yes I slightly move it and add a little more weight on the front foot it seems to work. I do not do it all the time just once in a while

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Robert,
Thanks for your comments on hitting high and low.It may have given me an avenue to explore further with the driver(s) ie, hitting the ball too low with two of them, yet hitting high and long with the old wooden small headed one!!! I thought I might be too much 'over the ball' at impact. Interesting. Breakfast calls. thanks again.
DH

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Submitted by SimplyGolf on

G Day DH. Will be curious to hear how this goes for you. I hit nothing but Low stuff with my R9 driver, even tho it's 10.5 and the ball is positioned well inside the front heel.

And another thing...I do think that Surge was describing a 3/4 finish today.
We focus so much on the Limited Turn 3/4 backswing, but to me....this 3/4 finish thing is really a big deal. Glad Don talked about it.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a 3/4 finish?

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

SG,
Curiously my r7 Quad is 10.5deg and I tend to hit low shots with it. Not too ugly on hard fairways. I used an ancient wooden Ping Zing 'blonde' driver last Thursday, hitting it a good distance and straight. I certainly think that, on reflection I was too much over the ball perhaps with the r7. On one particular shot, I tilted a teeny-weeny bit more with the wooden driver and it took off like a mortar round but pulled [obviously over the top hit in my opinion, added to teeing it up too high]. It frightened the life out of me. I reverted to the wooden 5W and it was high, long and straight. On one hole it was the longest and straightest drive I have had in a long time on that particular hole!
My next trip to the course I will pass on any further info.
I thought that Surge was talking about a 3/4 follow through or less for a lower shot? I use a lower finish for lower shots into the wind. The rest up to the high FUS finish and recoil on all other full shots if possible. DH

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

I have followed Surges advice in his 'working the ball' video series for some time now and it usually works like a charm. As far as not being able to hit the ball high off the tee I am not sure what the challenge may be. Though using a 9* I hit a normally high ball. As SG stated he hits the ball low even with his 10.5. Perhaps a 12* club face would help. Surge has even said he'll go to a 12 in the cooler, wetter winter months as it helps him gain height and distance. In my case I have been using a 9* x stiff for the last two years with consistently a high ball flight (accept when I want to fly it lower). It is the Nickent 4DX driver head with an NVS Aldila xs shaft. Can't make too much of a comparison with the r7 or any Taylor made as I have never used them. Seems one of the key factors in driving it higher is to make sure you tee it high enough and then hit it on the upswing at a slight ascending angle. Basically we need to hit up on the ball. Surge teaches we accomplish any flight by changing our spine angle and tilt. Also I try to remember to keep my head still and behind the ball while swinging up. He also says to have the weight even or even slightly PLHL when we want to flight the ball lower. Yes, cutting the swing off to 3/4's (finishing lower) is useful in flighting the ball lower too.
On another note, the other day I used my 56* almost exclusively from 40-80 yards. Was able to adjust distance by swing anywhere from a 1/4 to 1/2 to 3/4's. I also opened the face when needed which gave me 58- 60* when needed for more height. Something I did different than usual was after parking cart I would only take my 56* and putter over to my pitch/chip shot. This left me completely committed to making it work regardless of my lie and distance off the green. Never thought it about it that way because I have always taken two or more clubs along to make sure I have a choice. Sometimes forcing one committed choice makes you concentrate and focus more. Ironically the one poor wedge shot I hit was when I took along my 56 and 58 and then after much hesitation went with the 58 and flopped it short of the green! So using my 56 almost exclusively all day paid off. Of course that course had lush thick grass that required a lofted wedge. Back at my home muni course I can often use a pw, 9,or 8 iron from various areas around the green because the grass is shorter, ground is harder and there is often a lot of room to run the ball up. Not the case at Falcon Ridge.

Went on a bit of a tangent there guys, any how I do agree that the PPGS does incline us to hit the ball higher and I love it.

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Love the wedges, PW,SW and getting there with the LW. Have started again to experiment a little, but more with chipping until I get out onto the course again next week. My last practice was with an old SW and loved it's performance. The LW is a work in progress but more than acceptable. Your dropping it short with the 58* may have been due to not a long enough backswing and de-cellerating through the ball [odds on even in LV ; - ]
I was much more aggressive with mine and it paid off from lush 4" rough.
On the driver question: My last outing with an old wooden driver, on one hole I tilted a wee bit more and the ball took off like a long high mortar round! That has already got me thinking about the r7 again, with that in mind.
Just had a swing practice on the front yard [only 20 yds across], with it's bumps and hollows. Chipping with every club with a variety of ball types over the full width and shorter distances is great fun and consistency has definitely improved. On going out I tossed the 5balls I used at a newly risen dandelion flower head, as though I was chipping underhand aka skipping a rock. 2 of them rolled over the flower and 2 others struck other balls. Good fun.
Great to see that you are hitting the long and high off the tee, with a stiff shaft too. Funny years ago I bought a 9* Callaway club to stop me hitting the ball higher. It was garbage for me, but improved my ball striking on my usual driver hahaha!
Did you try the 'torture drill' or didn't you want to spoil your routine? I do it all the time now. It helps me to feel the swing, and swing the feel almost as 2nd nature. Long may it continue.
Late lunch calls, fish ala my cordon bleu caddy/cheffess ; - ) More swinging later.
Great to see DJ's name on the board at the Valero event. Keep on hitting them long and straight Robert and Cindy. Oh and DJ too hahaha. DH

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Submitted by ianjenko@yahoo.co.uk on

I know this is off today's subject but I am trying to fine the chart that Surge published some time ago on the correct shaft lengths for wrist to floor measurements. I think it covered most clubs

Can anyone help, please?

Thanks

Ian

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Submitted by Robert Fleck on

I don't think Surge ever "published" a chart, but several of us have shared this chart, taken from (I believe) Wishon's site or some similar place. It is for driver length, and there's another for 5-iron length that I don't have. It is SUGGESTED starting length for fitting, not an absolute commandment.

WTF.......Driver length
29-32.......42.5
32-34.......43
34-36.......43.5
36-37.......44
37-38.......44.25
38-39.......44.5
39-40.......44.75

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Robert,
A great guide it is too. I am right on the cusp of both the first and second of the seven you printed. Typical of me hahaha.
5iron should be:
37"
37.5"
38"
38.25" and that is as low as I wrote down being 'normal size' ; - )
DH

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Submitted by ronniethebogieman on

I quit using a driver a couple of yrs ago. I hit my 3W far enough 270ish off the tee. I played today and shot 73 for 18 not 9 HAHA.

I have been working on this swing for a couple of years behind the scenes with some tweaks of my own added. Very easy swing to learn. I tend to hit higher shots with this swing but have learned to hit low shots when I need them on occasion.

Ronnie

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Submitted by SimplyGolf on

Hi Ronnie. Welcome. You have some company on this site.

I also will go to my 3W most times. My fairway percentages go up.
With a loooong fairway, I'll reach for my R9 driver, settings adjusted for the slice. Man it's work... the shaft is too long and it just doesn't come through the ball the way my Cobra fairway does.

Interesting trade-offs, the 3W vs the Driver. My driver, BTW, I hit very low and just can't seem to get it into the air. (But wow, it really it rolls out.)
I don't always want roll out....except maybe when the wind howls.
I really want to get the ball up in the air a bit more with my driver.

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Simply Golf,
Just saw this one after answering your other one. I was carrying 2x3W's and the 5W instead of the driver, to try them against one another. I settled on one and the 5W for the time being. They are both more consistent than two of my drivers. The other one is a work in progress. Remember it is not how, it is how many! DH

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

This video made my day! Thanks to the PPGS swing, Surge and loyal, friendly Surgites assistance : - ]
From LW-7iron and all clubs in between, there has been nothing more encouraging to my ball striking, than watching the dead straight 'mortar rounds' arcing into the air after I have hit the ball. What made me feel even better, when I hit 4balls off the f/way with my 9iron (not my favourite short club), with the intention of pacing out the distance, was stunned when arriving at the landing area. A sombrero would have covered all four balls!!! Consistency is my personal holy grail. Dare I hope?
My present practice swing sessions at home use my newish 'torture drill' warm up routine,to get the swing going and stretch the old tendons, ligaments and muscles, and wake up the joints. Then I swing with each chosen club, usually 6 or so clubs. After that I drop half a dozen balls and then practice chipping with every club at different targets. I use a variety of balls to see how they respond to my swing. It has been quite an enlightening experience with Very interesting results. It appears to be ingraining instinctive feel and confidence when chipping the same distance with longer or shorter clubs. It is also fun.
Patience is the order of the day with my longest club in the bag. With the 5W and 3W doing a good job for me, I will practice with it from time to time and see how it goes.
The Lob Wedge [look out Phil Mickelson hahaha ; - ],and more putting practice are my immediate targets.Putting only to hone in my recent grip and swing change with the scoring stick.
Thanks again for confirming that I am definitely on the right track with my short 'scoring' clubs Surge.
Hit them high, long and straight Consistently all Surgites. DH

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Submitted by ianjenko@yahoo.co.uk on

Thanks to both of you, Robert and Dragonhead. I knew a Surgite somewhere would have the info.

Ian

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Ian,
You are welcome mate. Just back from a putting and practice session at the course : - ) Thought, it doesn't look like it will rain for a while so took the chance. Only took 2putters, SW (ancient Ping Zing), Ping My Day putter[one usually played with]and an even more ancient Ping Pal putter bought in Singapore in August 1980. The two clubs a 60deg LW Ping Medium bounce and the afore mentioned SW.
Practiced with the LW from 4" rough and it didn't take long to have it performing with soft drop shots nicely. Then swapped it for the SW.Now this is a club that I had not touched in 10years. It was nailing the pin on the practice green repeatedly. Big smiles all around.I used the practice to judge distances with both clubs.Then my wife and I onto the practice putting green for our usual 'challenge'. After a couple of practice putts I swapped the usual putter for the ancient bronze one. Results? The ancient one is back in the bag and will stay there, hahaha! Shades of DA Points hahaha!
Hit them longer, straighter in frigid snow bound UK
DH NZ

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Submitted by Cowboy in a kilt on

Surge

I have been playing golf with the same young PGA pro for the last couple of years. He just got his "A" card a couple of months ago. He told me a couple of weeks ago that his short game has improved a lot since he started playing and practicing with me. I can see that too. He has always wondered how I can as he says "Hit my 8i higher than he can hit his SW." It is all in the PPGS. His "go to" shot has gone from a low draw to a mid to high shot. He calls his new shot shape a "Butter Cut." It makes me happy when I watch him hit a nice high shot over a bunker or water, land on the green, and stop within a few feet. He has not bought into the whole PPGS, but he is already doing a lot of it, even if he does not know it yet.

On another note, I have an update on my two freshmen girls I have been instructing. They both made the team. They had their first tournament last Thursday. Their team won the tournament. One of my girls had her first ever birdie during the round, and won 2nd place overall. I am tickled to death.

The next generation of Surge Swingers is out there and working it.
Dick

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Congratulations on your protoge freshmen girls achievements stranger.
A 'Butter Cut' hahaha, food into it again. Just finished noodles freshly made.
My go to shots at the moment are 'Mortar round' wedges and short irons. On the last round my 5iron was performing better than I can remember. All due to the PPGS swing. Today's practice with 'ancient' clubs blew my socks off!
Hope all is going well with you. It has been a while since we saw the swing of your kilt. Stay well, safe and Happy. Above all keep on swinging the PPGS way. Semper Fi. DH In Arduis Fidelis.

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DH

Thanks pal. I have been catching up on the daily videos over the last couple of nights.

I am afraid that the old kilt has not been swinging much lately.

Hard to believe, but it has been almost a year since Dick was killed. I have to admit, most of the year has been a blur. I can't remember most of it at all. I never could have imagined the mountains could be this high or the valleys so low. I think I am doing much better over all. Just still trying to get used to the "new normal." How things have changed in our lives since this time last year.

I will try to get on the blog more often,
Dick
Gold Star Father
Proud father of SSGT Dick A. Lee, Jr.
Killed in action, Afghanistan, April 26, 2012

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Submitted by Russty Kiwi on

God bless Dick. Keep your chin up mate, as you should be proud in every way. Your in our thoughts and Dick Jr will be on April 25, as that is ANZAC day down here when we remember all of our fallen soldiers

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Russty Kiwi

Your words and thoughts mean a lot. I did not know you folks down under had a day like our Memorial Day. It is great to hear that you do. I probably should have known you would. Our peoples seem to share a lot of the same values and ideas.

I have never wished anyone a happy Memorial Day. I always wish them a somber and thoughtful day. I will wish you the same on ANZAC Day. I will celebrate with you on the 25th, as we remember the sacrifices made, and the blessings we have all enjoyed because a special breed of people have always stood ready to do what is necessary to keep our homelands safe.

Thanks Russty,
Dick

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Russty,
God bless indeed mate.
ANZAC day and UK Rememberance day are both times of reflection for many of us. Several of my comrades in both the British and New Zealand army have this past year passed away. Two of my closest friends among them. I value and revere every day that we are able to learn from Surge and tread the hallowed turf of the golf courses. This was made possible for all of us, by the sacrifice of others. On the 25th and 26th of this month we will remember that their sacrifice was not in vain.
God Bless them all.

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Dick,
You have often been in our thoughts over the past year. Just know that your 'international family' will always be there for you. As Russty Kiwi said, ANZAC Day on the 25th of April is our national rememberance day in New Zealand. On that day, whatever or which ever commemorative service we attend, SSGT Dick A.Lee,Jr. you and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers. Just to the rear of the 17th tee at our course is a very small memorial commemorating the existence of a US Military Camp on the course during the early period of WW2. The camp was home to US Marines. I will pay my respects personally at the memorial on the 26th of April in memory of you and your family.
In the great glen they lie asleeping where the cool waters genty flow......Words from this song have special meaning to me when remembering my comrades who have gone before me.
One thing I am certain of, Dick A.Lee, Snr, is not a quitter. He will rise again and make us and himself smile again. Your son would expect nothing less of you my friend.
God Bless you and yours and may the future grant you all peace and acceptance. Then straighten up,look the world in the eye and meet it's hardships with the same grit and determination we Surgites know you possess aplenty.
DH in New Zealand

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DH

Thanks you old war dog. Means a lot, especially coming from you. You will have to send me a picture of the USMC memorial.

Thank you for your thoughts. I am still in the game pal, and I am still chipping away at it.

Dick

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Nice to hear from you Dick. You are not far from our thoughts here on the blog and always part of our family. Admittedly I look to see if maybe you have shared some time with us here and there you are. Good work with those freshmen and the PGA man. Golfers on all levels can always learn more and get better. That's fun that you have slipped in some PPGS skills with them.

Take care pal and have a good summer. Make sure to include some golfing time for youself too.

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Robert

I am trying to play and practice more than I had been for the last year. I am very tickled about my gals.

Looks like we might have finally gotten through the winter.

I hope,
Dick

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Excellent video Surge. I have to ask, Where did you get that hat? That's a great hat! We had our first really warm sunny day here the other day and I burnt my ears. I need a really great hat like that. Thank you.
Greg

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Surge, love your system, it has made my back and knees much better to golf with. I am 75yrs old and have a very bad hart, 20 percent left, plus quad bypass, and 9 stents,and a defib. I can't go to the driving range because of having to rest between shots and sit down while resting, so it takes me a long time to hit a bucket of balls. What I have done is bought a net like you use in the backyard driving range, so I can rest as needed. What I want to know is what mat you are hitting off of and why do you have the plywood under it and how thick is it? Thank you so much for giving us this system of Golf, Philip Schwenck, Abita Springs, La.

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I'm fairly sure that Surges mat is the same as a standard driving range mate, & the plywood is there to level it up on uneven ground.
Hope I'm still able to play golf at 75, & still keen to learn. Good luck with the driving range Saltydog

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Submitted by saltydog314 on

Thank you for trying to answer my question, but in my area we don't have a driving range with mats, all are grass and good old dirt. The mat that the Surge uses is able to take a tee, any place he wants to put it, and looks like it is at least an inch thick. So again I ask what make or brand is the mat that the Surge uses in the Back Yard Driving Range? Phil

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Submitted by Robert Fleck on

Hey Phil,

Surge said yesterday at the one-day camp that he has a video coming soon about his backyard range set up, but he doesn't specifically remember where he got the mat. You can Google "driving range mat" though and get a few thousand options. It can take a tee primarily because it's sitting on dirt. Any one without a hard plastic backing board can as long as you don't set it on concrete or wood or something else you can't push the tee into.

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Reached first of two goals. This year I set two goals.

#1 Shoot even par for 9
#2. a 75 for 18

Reached the first today, 4/3/13 at age 55 on front nine of the Falcon Crest in Mesquite Nevada.
One birdie, one bogie and 7 pars for the 35.
To say the least it was a blast!!
Everything went right. Good drives. Great short game, especially with my 56* wedge which really made me happy because I was strugling with it previously. Putter was sweet today. I've gone back to a normal grip (right hand low), small grip and my Fathers 1980 Callaway putter. No more claw grip (was like Phil the past 6 months) with the pencil claw. Shot a 42 on the par 36 back nine for the 77.

Fun day on our anniversary trip. Playing tomorrow too:)

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Submitted by SimplyGolf on

Congrats on both, Robert,
The 35 on the front 9 is sweet.
The finish score, cool.

But.... that you are on an anniversary trip....
is awesome. These events matter.
Way to go. Enjoy.

Ain't life great?

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Life is great. Have to say it was our first time playing this course. Falcon Ridge is a really hilly up and down through valleys and over southwest plateaus (mesa's) - just beautiful. Had many shots where I had to just guess slopes for less or more club. Most shots were just coming off super. I know the 75 is not far off. We are going to play the same track tomorrow. Hope to play the back nine better tomorrow. It was much tougher with lots of blind tee shots. I will know where to hit the ball now.
Really a pleasure to play greens that are new both fast and soft. Fixed lots of deep ball marks and most wedge shots were less than 3 feet from where they hit. Back in Las Vegas I play our muni most of the time where greens are hard and bumpy and slow.
There are still several courses in Mesquite I hope to play in the future. It's only 1 hour from LV to here so well worth the drive.
Not altogether sure what happened today but I want to bottle it!

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Submitted by Dragonhead on

Happy Anniversary Robert and Cindy.What a way to celebrate with a score like that! Yeeeeeha! Loved the pictures of the course. My life caddy said she loves a course when the background looks 'wild'
Bottle it indeed and be quick. Hahaha on the putter grip, changed from the claw to my new one and used my original Ping Pal bronze Putter bought in Singapore in August 1980!!!!! en-route to New Zealand. How about that coincidence hahaha? Good luck tomorrow DH

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Yes we are having a wonderful get -a-way. Interesting you mention Ping Zings. I have the complete iron set from 2 iron to pw. My dear old Dad's last set that he got new circa 1980. Along with the Ping Eye 2's they were and are classics and marked a major change in club design. I re gripped them last year and ocassionally bust em out in memory of Father. He was a master with a pw and short stick. Was able to channel his short game Wednesday. I had tried his Callaway flat stick (a blade style) several times before but finally got it dialed in. Still has the original slender grip. Been keeping the hands on with softer grip pressure. Distance control is my greatest improvement as of late. Love tap ins if the first rolls by:)

We tee off at 2:20 on Falcon Ridge again today. 85* and sunny.

Taking nothing for granted and blessed with a lovely partner who is hooked on golf too:)

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Hahaha! Ping eye were my first clubs in around 1980. Flown in to Berlin from Phoenix.Then couriered via a fellow army RSM in the Postal and Courier Regt, to me in West Germany. Swapped them mid 1980'a and regretted it ever since. As I realized it is probably the Injun and not the arrows so much which have been my problem. In NZ in the early 1980's I had a couple or three sub 80 rounds, the lowest being 76! Played with two ladies and couldn't believe the score.
It is still on my bucket list to get fitted properly, in the meantime I will check out my clubs in competition with each other. Noted that when getting some ready for a swing session [after watching Rd 1 from Texas]
when leaned against the wall in almost their playing position. The G2's roll face shut and the Zings roll face open??? weird~! hahaha.
Doc Griffin would have the answer to that for sure.
Enjoy the rest of your golf. Go get 'em, longer, straighter and more consistently. DH

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Submitted by michaelemaser@g... on

Robert, Congratulations on 2 fronts, your anniversary, and your even par round. I played at Falcon Crest this past December with an old friend, as part of my Christmas visit. Beautiful course, with spectacular views, we only played 9 holes, but it was in very good shape, and a real treat. We played the back, so I know what you're talking about when you mentioned the degree of difficulty, and there were quite a few blind shots, especially off the tee. My friend told me the back 9 was designed by the same guy who did Wolf Creek, so it was both beautiful and challenging. The weather here in NC is still not great, so we're still playing off dormant Bermuda and mud, but they've promised warmer weather is on the way. I'm really looking forward to hitting an iron, or a fairway club off something green other than the mats on the range. Again, congrats on your recent achievements, and I'm sure you'll be telling us all soon about your 75. Mike

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Wanted to play Wolf Creek this week.
But at 195.00 each I couldn't justify it this time. We play 2/3 times a week so that's an expensive fix. Maybe some day. Planning to go visit Surge later this year and saving for that.

Hope your golf is more playable soon!

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Thanks Mike. Good weather and better golf days are heading your way soon:)

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Submitted by Terry Medley on

Congrats on the 9 hole par round Robert. No reason to ever forget your anniversary now!!!!!

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Being 4/4 made it easy even for me to remember!

Wanted to add that my gradual improvement over the last few years has everything to do with all we learn through Surge, Doc Griffin and all my fellow Surgites on this site.

Here's wishing you and all the Surge Nation good golfing this year, especially loyalists like yourself and R2 that are just now digging out of the snow and ice from a long long winter.

Keep it 3/4's and make some putts:)

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Submitted by ronniethebogieman on

(Everything went right.) Check your alignment. LOL just teasing great round

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Thanks Ronnie. Trust me I'm always checking my alignment:)

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Submitted by resumez@cox.net on

Robert,

Congrats on achieving your goal!! And "Welcome to the club" LOL
Currently my 2 goals are 1) shoot even par on the front 9 at "my" course and 2) shoot 70-something for 18 -- again.

The first goal would probably require 2 birdies -- and the 2nd goal would need at least 1 more.
Needless to say, either goal requires a near perfect short game for me -- and most likely 12 or 13 one-putt greens -- or an unusually high number of GIR -- like 6 or 7. might be possible -- in the last few weeks I seem to be hitting the driver almost 10 yards longer than usual - and most other clubs about 5 yards more than usual. Probably due to hotter weather and harder fairways.

Keep hitting them STRAIGHTER and LONGER

Amos

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Submitted by Robert Meade on

Really, a lot of things had to go right and did for my even par front nine. Got some good bounces and hit some great shots for those nine straight holes. Was unable to keep it all going on the back but was happy with 77 on that hilly and challenging track. Rare (actually first time ever) that every aspect of my game was on. I made putts of 5-10 feet with regularity and one that was 50-60 feet that was for par. We all have many days where we just barely miss several shots and putts. Golf is not a game of inches, it's a game of tiny fractions. On those rare beautiful days the fractions are measured our way. Hoping for more too:)

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Submitted by Robert Fleck on

Congratulations, on the 77, the even par front nine, and most of all the anniversary!

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