What Does Each Hand Do At Impact?

Actually, yes, until I came out there!  LOL

When you go toe up into the backswing, it means you have to turn your wrists clockwise.  When you go back down, then you have to turn them back counter-clockwise.  This means that you have to time the turning back of the wrists perfectly to be square at impact.   Wouldn't it be easier to just keep your wrists flat at all times?   This eliminates timing the turning of the wrists.

 You are very welcome Doc. Wonder if the ball my wife found here the other day was an omen? The ball has the logo on it, "Raptor Bay Golf Club"! Now my cursory look see, told me, that it is in Florida. Hmmm!

I love how Surge talks about the lift starting from the get go with the slight rotation to let the toe swing up. Nicely stated.

Thanks for the tip Steve.  I'm always trying little drills, but your's really helped me feel what I was missing.  I shot +2 today which is a stroke or 2 better than usual, but more importantly my shots were more on line.  I used the drill prior to every shot.  Thanks again.    

Putting is such a fickle thing Amos. I had both really good putts and others that left my head shaking. I had three holes in a row where I sank putts of 5 ft, 20 and 12. All were one putt greens that yielded 2 pars and one "good" bogie. Then I miss a few that I felt should have gone in. I am seeing some light on the putting front though and am likewise looking forward to warmer days:)
PMG

Thank you DH!  It is greatly appreciated.

Doc, I have flown over each square mile of Florida during my flying days and I can truthfully say there are many places in Florida that you and your wife will enjoy.  Never make the decision sitting in Columbia...travel to Florida and visit the places people have recommended...spend time driving around and talking with the Club "Pros".  I personally like the "Panhandle" and this area will keep you near excellent medical facilities, which I hope you do not need!  However, I must say that Florida ain't like South Carolina...

Best regards,
The Captain

Surge, thanks so much, have not posted for awhile, the weather here was, not good, but, today 47, so, of course I was out on the practice range.!!!  so fun...Thanks for the video today, my right arm is so much stronger than my left, but, in golfing my left arm/ hand does well.   You said grip both the same and that is what I try to do!   Hit pretty good today, only had my five hybred and pitching wedge, that darn five hybred, but, hitting it better.   IM thinking of getting some new clubs this year??  We don't have a pro this year, so, shall see where to go?   What about hybreds, do you like them?
 
Thanks sooooo much,
marilyn
 
ps,  50s next week!!!!!   oh, great think it post!!!!!

I do best when I allow myself make the perfect swing.  The swing is the objective - the ball just gets in the way of that perfect swing on by best shots!

Robert:

   I agree -- and doubly so on COOL or COLD days.  When the weather is cool or cold, you lose sensitiviy in the hands and fingers
   On the early holes, I was tending to leave putts 6 inches to a foot short -- but dead on line.  Later I was getting the speed about right, but hitting "through the break" and going about 1 foot beyond the hole.
     By about the 9th or 10th hole, the sun finally came up enough to warm things a bit -- and the putting got much better!
     Then again, I am more sensitive to cold than most -- One reason I live in the desert!

    Keep hitting trhen STRAIGHT and LONG

     Amos

 That is one of my favorite movies of all time.

I think I can just about do all the parts in the movie.

Thank you nice man,

Cool Rodger, glad to hear you got a helpful analysis. I'm hoping to do mine soon. Might not happen this week because my videotographer (my wife Cindy:) is working Friday when it would otherwise be a go. So looks like next week. Hoping weather is clear next week too as that would help.
Keep us posted on your progress and your approach to improvement(s).

Thanks Steve.  Times are certainly harrowing.

 It was posted on yesterday's blog by 3 or 4 different folks. Here it is again.
Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sm...

 I would choose the Phoenix metropolitan area. Except for the summers. That is what the mountain areas are for. The double areas of summer and winter places makes the mountain west ideal for the golf business.

And it is Hybrid!!!!!    Had a Senior frozen,,,,

Thanks Surge, got out today, didn't hit as good, but, kinda of tired, to much yesterday,,,,five miles on treadmill then golf,,,

Thanks for all of your help..

marilyn

Today's swing thought:  Toe up to toe up with firm, rotating forearms.

It's quite simple, and Surge details how to hit whatever shape shot you want in his Working the Ball video. Highly recommended if you're serious about learning the PPGS swing.

 A lot of good old boy lines in that show. Thanks for the refresher. I'm with Dick one of the favorites, especially with Gleason in that role, he was a riot.

Another very interesting video of the day. We are blessed with someone who actually wishes to see us improve quickly. Bless you Surge.
Had an 18hole practice today and came home on cloud 9! The driver was smoking from the get go!  On the second hole, a difficult short par 4 with a sharp dogleg right at the end and one side of the green guarded by huge trees with overhanging branches.Usually two shots for me to get in a position to have a go at the flag.Today was pin high 20yds from the pin off the tee!!!!! Other holes where I have struggled to make distance off the tee without ending in the trees with the 24deg Rescue or 5W, today I used the r7 and instead of using a 5W or 4iron, I was using a PW or SW for 1/2 shots at the pin!!! on the shorter par 4's. So I am still smiling and very content with the day. Half a dozen easy pars, which could have been more. With the driver the ball strikes were in the middle of the sweetspot, with only one exception. This shot was dead straight but went very high.Then when I settled on a lower height tee, the problem was not repeated.
Now then, what do I owe this spledid ball striking to? Firstly to the Swing Surgeon team for their unstinting assistance in my quest for consistency. One person I am going to single out.That gentleman, is Steve Smith, aided by one of the guys who commented on his 'one handed swing video'. I had discounted it the first time I saw it. Then when a fellow antipodean commented yesterday, my curiosity was aroused. I accidentally viewed it again after TMedley [hope I got it right this time? ; -  ] posted the link to it. I thought it was something else. Anyway, I digress. Went out onto the back porch and give it a go. I swung a couple of times one handed with an 8iron and then made a two handed swing. THE LIGHT WENT ON! I went in and took the driver out of the bag and repeated the process. Couldn't believe the results.This morning repeated the exercise with the 4iron and the Driver. Wild horses could not have stopped me going to the course and giving it a go. A couple of one handed swings followed by a two handed practice swing and into it! I realised after a few holes, that, I was probably holding the club too tightly. As soon as I started letting the club release and do it's own thing. Distance was long and accurate. So to all concerned, and I know Steve Smith will be his usual humble self, but Steve, it will be known by me from now on as 'Skipping Stones' or SS for Steve Smith. That way, I will have no problem remembering what I must do EVERY time. Bless all the Surge bloggers for their help and advice, and I mean all of you. Respectfully Yours, DH a dedicated Surgite and golfnut.

Heh! And you weren't even here for summer. I still remember the first time I went out at 4am and saw a thermometer on a bank sign that said 104*.

Phil, you don't turn the wrists independently at any point. The WHOLE ARM rotates as you take the club back and as you swing it through. There's no careful timing necessary if you follow the PPGS principles as the natural position that the arms will achieve at impact would be the perfect position for striking the ball. There really is no excess manipulation. You keep the wrists firm so that the lead wrist doesn't bow or cup or flop around in the BUS and the trailing wrist becomes the "firm" one after impact.

Russty Kiwi, I agree that the catchers' mitt is too much to think about during the swing but the concept is a key part of the correct takeaway.  Many people would be well served by spending time trying to find a way to perfect that move because if done well it makes the rest of the BUS so much easier.

Good Timing Surge
Further to my revelation on the one handed RH drill that that Steve Smith recommended the other day, Surge has now reinforced that principal.
Have been LH dominant for years and now starting to understand t why I kept
pulling left, even on solid hits. As surge stated, the RH is the lower hand and being
closer to the club head, actually has more control on the clubs direction and face.
Played several times this week and can't believe the power and accuracy I'm
getting with my short irons and tee hits. Played in an Ambrose event yesterday
and twice one of my team members said, "I'm not hitting, can't do any better
than your hit". Thanks heaps again to Surge, Steve and all you Surgites out there.        

ditto for me  too likewise you did bring  your insights straight foewasrd at full speed 

Boy have I found the site for you. Its called Revolution golf, & you'll find losts of like minded people over there. Just the place for international plonkers like you

Roger:  Thanks for posting the results of your video lesson.  Surge always says "the set-up determines the motion".  How true it is.  The nice thing about this swing is that once we learn it, we can take it apart, fix it and put it back together again thanks to all the Surgites and our master teachers.  Keep us up-to-date on how the "repairs" go.  Interesting stuff!  R2

Hello again Surge,
Two things that I noticed from this video. At the start of the video when you are taking your intro swing into the net I noticed that the ball was positioned well back in your stance, I mean WELL back. This position is unusual for you. Are you trying something new or is the camera angle misleading? Secondly, in regard to the theme of this video, I find it much easier to think about the position of the thumbs. If our hands are in the proper position at address, I just rotate the arms, and therefore the hands, so on the takeaway, I think about putting my thumbs in my right ear , and on the follow-through I rotate the arms so the thumbs are in my left ear. This, more often than not gives me a nice, solid, straight hit, if I had the ball in the proper position to begin with. This swing thought was the simplest I could think of to get me to swing in the proper manner. If I'm off with this thought I'd appreciate you addressing this. Thanks so much for your input on a terrific swing approach that lets us golfers swing relatively pain free. Regards,
Gil B.  

 Yikes! English is so lame a language to use to describe anything. Oh yeah, also the best one.

You write "One piece takeaway or two?" Yes!!!!!!!!

First, there is a perfect swing and second humans are not capable of doing it.

Another point. What has been written is not the gospel according to Surge. It is a collection of observations on how he personally is able to come as close as possible to the perfect swing.

Therein lies the problem you are having as Surge is perfectly willing to use ideas from any source so he that can more adequately describe how to adjust each of our personal patterns close to the ideal swing.

The basis of your question is turn or lift. Both at virtually the same time.

The aim line is the base line to the swing. The toe line is the secondary base line and the line the butt end of the club is the tertiary base line. All three are parallel.

The turn of the shoulders set the butt end of the club parallel to the toe and aim lines. From the start of the swing to the end of the turn at the 70* turn the shoulder turn is pretty much the same rate from the start to the end of the turn.

The lift on the other hand starts slowly and increases through the mitt and up the tree to ringing the bell. It is more like an exponential curve on the X/Y axis graph.

Robert, Doc and Steve all have great points in their posts below. Once you can grasp the simultaneous turn-lift along the toe line so the club is light and the turn limited, the ability to play golf at your best level will be staring at you in the mirror.