One-Piece Vertical Takeaway

Fri, 01/27/2012 - 18:59 -- Don Trahan

Sometimes when I refer to where my club is, I use a clock as a reference point. 12 o'clock is one position that I mention frequently, because this is where the club should be positioned at the top of your backswing. But remember, this is when the camera is positioned down the line, not face-on. If the camera is positioned face-on, then my club will line up more with 1 o'clock at the top of my backswing (which is a 3/4 backswing). In today's daily, I wanted to talk about the whole takeaway as well as the positions of the clock in relation to camera angle. I've drawn in a clock on the video to really help you visualize what I mean.

Now that you've seen a detailed explanation of the clock's reference points, let's focus on the takeaway. It starts with getting the club into the catcher's mitt, toe up. Only turn as far as your toe line, then it's all lift. I want to stress that even though I've given you checkpoints throughout the takeaway, remember that it must be a smooth, one-piece motion. Each step blends seamlessly into the next for a perfect Surge Swing takeaway and backswing. If you start thinking about each position individually while you're taking the club back, you won't get the best results. Put it all together and make a good swing!

Keep it vertical,

The Surge!

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Steve Smith's picture

Submitted by Steve Smith on

Shhhhhhhhhh!

Still a round to go. ;-)

Edit: To be truthful the main reason I hate to mention what is going on in a golf tournament on the blog is that some people have it recorded and may not want to see what happened. Of course most of us have learned that if we don't want to know we better not click on the blog, especially if DJ is playing.

BTW. I don't know what went so wrong the other day for DJ but I hope he gets it straightened out.

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Tom....

Sign me up.

Can't wait!

Phillip

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

Hey Gil,
There is very little way to "contradict the serving-champagne drill" unless you spill the champagne. You could stand beside multiple people with a glass in their hands and have them hand you the glass and each one would do it a little differently. Even the same person would do it differently on different occasions if looked at in slow motion.

Some would simply hand it back to you with their arms with only a little shoulder turn at the end of the action. Some would hand it back using mostly shoulder turn and very little arm action. Others would hand it back in various combinations of the two extremes.

Many things can contribute to why an individual might use one extreme over the other including:
Body size (a thin person would be more likely to use less body turn to hand it back).
Spine tilt (more upright people would turn the body more).
Flexibility.
General preference (we are all a little different for no particular reason at all).

DJ does move the club much further than Don before any shoulder turn can be detected. He also has much more spine tilt and is much thinner and more flexible.

Second point:
It is impossible to get the club head to the toe line using ONLY shoulder turn unless that shoulder turn is 90 degrees, so all of us are using the arms to make up that difference whether we feel it or not. The longer the club, and the further forward the ball is in the stance, the more the pronation has to act independent of shoulder turn to make up the difference. Some feel as if they are simply turning the shoulders and arms as a unit. Some feel as if they are pronating and reaching back with the arms and shoulder turn is almost incidental. Others are a combination of the two.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Craig,
Just watched the last half of the replay. How painful. Ironic it was Brandt Snedeker in that he of all players of recent history could certainly identify with that level of Choking. Do you remember only a couple of years ago Sned 4 putted missing adavncing in the playoff s by one shot. That became known as a Snedeker if one 4 putts. As my wife reminds me after I miss the occasional 3 footer.
"Even the pros do it".
Kyle will probably come back soon and win.

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Submitted by Russty Kiwi (not verified) on

Please get the MANUAL. Does'nt cost an arm or leg ,but prevents confusion.

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Submitted by Rpetersen (not verified) on

Surge,

I live in Utah.  Is there anyone in this neck of the woods that teaches the Surge swing?

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Submitted by Keith Kent (not verified) on

Hi Steve, Maybe I am missing something? Both yourself and Surge are at about 10-11 oclock at some point in the FUS. My point is only that for us mere mortals we are not to take this swing as lift up and down the toeline which in the mitt up the tree can be taken as.
What you have to remember is that for some of us this is the first time a golf club has ever been lifted.

You can see where you generate power, you have a good amount of hip action compared to arms, maybe I don't have enough as I try and implement the bump with very limited hip action.
Or maybe this is another point I have taken to the extreme as I try and implement the bump and to generate speed with the arms.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Okay Keith, I rarely give any strong observations or recomendations unless they are asked for. You are a regular part of our family here so here's what I see after Steve gave me the links to your swings. At the top of your backswing you are far behind and around. Your swing is near or past parallel at the top. So not 3/4's.Not at a 70* turn rather 90* or more. At the top of your backswing your hips are nearly facing the camera. Your chin is over your left shoulder. So you turn way too far. From the front you look like you are set up fairly decent and have your knees in a good position however again from behind down the line your right (back knee) has followed your big turn back and you are in a perfect position to slice it.That left knee and leg are completely visable. Another sign of a big turn back. Advice in a nut shell?

Much, much less turn
No hip turn back!
HOLD THE KNEES
HOLD THE LOWER BODY
Half swings (even with your driver)
Make lots of very slow swings into the finish
   finishing with the club up and close to the left ear not left field
   Slowly at first. Super slow
   Again, feel as though they're HALF swings, not even 3/4's
   Keep the club in front of you and along toeline

No turn back. Yes NO TURN. To feel this swing and get vertical radical measures must be taken. Exagerate all of the above.
It will feel strange and uncomfortable. Do it any way.

I posted all of Surges lessons with Matt and Surges Driver swing vid.
If you can watch and LISTON carefully to what Surge says to Matt(several times) and during his driver vid you'll begin to get.
After practicing the above suggestions we'll go from there and like Matt
you will start to get it.
Pay special attention to the emphasis on a quiet lower body.
Aim for 90% arms and 10% body. (The body part of your swing needs to be much more quiet) You need to believe that or there really is no hope.
Will you get the body to 10%? Likely not any time soon. In fact few likely do. But if you think and practice for it you will be amazed at the distance and control you will gain.

You'll see those videos below in my previous post.
Drastic measures bring drastic results. You CAN get it Keith.
I have faith in you!

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Submitted by MikefromKy Go B... (not verified) on

The nice thing about downloading V1 I was able to download codecs with it to allow windows media player to play MP4 video that it did not have. I have a bunch of video players also may remove a couple of them.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

My wife unintentionally messed me up. I recorded it at 3:00 AM our time and was going to watch the recording but when I woke up my wife was watching the post round so I knew who won before I watched it.

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Submitted by Dmwheat4 (not verified) on

kinda like me, didn't run my car for ever, then it would not start,,,had a great practice today, hit the ball good, took only my eight iron out, walked six holes, then worked on the practice range, I was out three hours hitting, then walking the dog, it was great being outside,,,love it,,,

Thanks for your help,

marilyn

oh, my friend did walk over, he is 85, he always helps me and I do what he tell me too....

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Submitted by Fordon51 (not verified) on

Surge Just finished the Kenny Knox video, excellent presentation and instruction on the short game, I have a good short (or so I thought) now looking forward to practicing some of the shots from Kenny's video, I should be able to save a few shots around the green if I get them right.

 I hope you will do the same on the long game and putting.

Donal Foran
Ireland

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Submitted by shortgamewizard (not verified) on

Most of the greens I play in the Phoenix area are sun baked and will not let the spinning ball grab. I know how to play a low spinning shot but use it up in the mountains in the summer where the greens retain moisture longer.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Oh boy, Bowenrmb, Surge does that demo allowing the club to drop straight down for demonstration purposes only as he shows in this video that his full swing as seen from face on the clubhead goes beyond 12 O'clock in order to get to 3/4's. Think about it, if he stopped at 12 (shaft face on)that would be stopping his arms at 9 O'clock equalling a half swing. That's fine for a partial shot but not the point of 12 O'clock and lite. The purpose of course is to help us see that swing back vertically is more in harmony with physics and physiology. On the way down and into the forward upswing it works in harmony with gravity.Do you have the basic video lesson package and the manual?

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Tell you what, I went out and used his thoughts on the bunker and hit a 45 foot sand shot to 1 foot for a kick in. One of the most impressive things from his methodes is how he has his nose at where he wants the club to strike the sand. For example aimed two inches behind the ball. Formerly I would have my nose at the ball in the trap while hoping to hit behind it. Sometimes I would hit behind it and take sand, sometimes not and send the ball over the green. Much better results now. That and lots of other great ideas in those vids.

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Submitted by MikefromKy Go B... (not verified) on

Steve
This kinda ironic but I was going through my emails and for some reason. I got 6 email tip videos from the dark side out of the blue. I thought I was band from there permanently they must be getting hard up for business. Any how low and be hold there was your tip to me on a video from Rodger Fredricks. I watched it out of curiosity and then deleted all of them and blocked them from sending anymore.
 

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