Center of Gravity, Center of Swing

BTW, Charlie, my ONEE-TWOO also woks for me with the putter. It smoothes out the stroke. If "happy bumping" works use it. It would send me into a latin dance mode that would get sombody close hurt no doubt...lol.

To measure any club, sole it properly on the ground and place a measuring stick under the back of the shaft from the ground and measure to just below the end of the grip (the butt of the club is about 1/8" under the grip, I believe). A good place to start before you whack chunks off of your driver is to simply choke down on it and see if that helps. A good guideline to start from is this chart of Wrist-to-Floor measurements and associated driver lengths:
WTF.......Driver length
29-32.......42.5
32-34.......43
34-36.......43.5
36-37.......44
37-38.......44.25
38-39.......44.5
39-40.......44.75

Find your WTF (in street shoes, stand up straight and measure from just below the bone of your forward wrist to the floor--it may help to have somebody else assist you with this measurement) and get the associated driver length from the chart above. Measure your driver shaft and place something like a twist tie at the length noted from the chart (assuming it's shorter than the actual length of your driver, which is a pretty good bet if your driver was manufactured in the last 20 years). Use that as the virtual butt of the club for taking your grip and swinging and see if it helps.

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Fifteen days & one class down, 30 days and two more classes to go...then it's some serious R&R, I hope.
Goodnight, folks, hope you all have a great day tomorrow.
Boog

Hey Doc - as long as you're here - I haven't had a chance to take the new potential love of my life out for an official outing.  We've only made it to the driving range once.  Life keeps getting in the way.  I'm going to try to play hooky one afternoon this week to get in at least 9.  I'll keep y'all posted.
JM

Dick, don't do that, it hurts.

I've had experience with the stupid body deciding to break itself down for no good reason, like putting my back out at the difficult task of picking up a sock. Hopefully you have nothing ruptured and some time, care, and help from doctors and therapists will have you moving relatively pain free again soon.

 

Dan--thanks for the reminder to hit 75%.  I shouldn't have to be reminded (but I do need to be) since I was one of the original posters back about March 16 when I was "ordered" by my doc to swing easy after the first attack of back pains.  On March 16, I cut my tempo down  about 15%, and my drives went further(but not far) and straighter (very straight).  Guys in my golf group commented that my swing now looked more coordinated.  I theorized that slowing my tempo allowed me time to incorporate the various parts of the swing more correctly, and I need to find that tempo again, master that swing to the best of my ability, and then speed it up to Surges 90%.  Trouble is, I haven't been able to "find" that tempo.  Maybe I need to take the pain killers I was on at that time and make my mind woozy and slower.

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 Amos

Just for the record, there is no such thing as an "ex-Marine."  As Boog will tell you, "Once a Marine, always a Marine."

Dick

Lynn:  Same here my good friend!  I have simply never played better golf - ever- since Doc built me a driver and four hybrids.   It really is true that  "better golf is just a fit away".. R2

Steve, I've been meaning to thank you for this thoughtful video. Powerful, amazing and sad what mother nature can do. Every time I see shots of aftermath of these radical twisters or the earthquakes and tsunamies it blows me away. And the way so many handle it as the come together is eqally if not more poerful with our fellow human spirit. Thanks for helping us keep things in perspective. 

Jerry, In addition to all of the advice you received about just letting it fully load before you play it. Yes, I down load and save a lot of the videos to Real Player. I have no knowledge of other system players, but, if you have Real Player,(free to download) and then select it as your default system player. Every time you click on a video to play, a small option box will open in the right upper corned of the video, (download to Real Player) one click and it get's saved into your player library. While it is downloading another box will open showing the progress and allow you to change the name/title of the video and date it if so desired. As to the below info, others have posted similar suggestions, but I offer it as a standard reply to those having play/pause problems. Good luck.

This
has been covered many times in past blogs. It's not the video; it's your
computer connection and download speed. You have a very slow connection. Getting connected to HIGH SPEED internet, Could help, but even that can be slow during  periods of high traffic to the
video.  In the mean time, just click the play, and then click the pause. Watch the load bar at the bottom of the screen advance from left to right, when it is half way or more across, click from pause to play and it will play without interruption, UNTIL the load bar catches up with the play bar, and then because of your SLOW CONNECTION it will have to pause again to allow more video to load. You cannot play it until it has been loaded, and your unit loads very slow, and even slower if the video site is getting heavy traffic usage. Just give it time to load before you play it and it will not have to pause to load more video. There is also another solution, just let it play fully the first time with the volume off or muted, then click replay and it will play the second time without interruption, because it has already fully loaded on your system. Good luck

Here is a link you can use to check the speed of your internet connection.
http://reviews.cnet.com/intern...

Amos

Thanks for sharing that experience with us. You are right, the Lord does things on his own schedule.

Ain't it great to just be able to go out there go through each day with no fear. We are in the bonus round pal, we have nothing to lose.

No Fear,
Dick

Thanks Coach.   The point of interest is around the 7:50 mark with the face on view in particular, the head is perfectly stable indicating that the centre of swing is as well and the centre of gravity is stable on the BUS until it bumps forward to initiate the FUS.   I know its frustrating wading through the trash talk to this point but he changes his attitude to giving the Surge a big wrap for the bump sequence but again back to the trash talk afterwards.

Surge Nation

Well, it was the best of times, followed by the worst of times.

Yesterday was great.  Today really was terrible.

I got to the course early to warm up.  I loaded my bag on my cart.  I reached back into my truck to pick up my shoes.  It sounded like a shotgun went off.  The pain going through my left upper back caused white lights to go off in the back of my eyes.  I went down to the ground and stayed there for at least 30 minutes.  That is were dad and Jerry found me.  They helped me up, and got me into my cart.  I was having muscle spasms all down my back.  I took a couple of Aleve.  I just followed them around for the whole game.  I never swung a club.  I still enjoyed the company, and being on the course.  Their games were off today.  If I had been able to play, I would have kicked their tails.  But, there are no "would have, could have, or should have" in life or golf.  I was able to stop at the doctor on my way home.  They did an exam and some hands on stuff that just killed me.  Just breathing is taking my breath away.  Not sure how that can be, but it does.

Getting older is just so much fun.

I am taking some drugs and hitting the rack.  Tomorrow is yet another day, and I am awaiting it with much enthusiasm.

Surge
The Surge Swing works so well for me and does not hurt me at all.  Can you come up with a Surge way of getting through the rest of my day without tearing my old busted up body apart?

The big old world just keeps right on turning.  Just when you think things can't get any worse, they do.

Keep me in your prayers.

Keeping it real still, so I don't hurt myself any more,
Dick

 Hello Dick,

You're in them Pal.  I hope You make a speedy recovery and start enjoying the rest of your season.  Follow the Dr's orders and don't get in a hurry to do things normally.

I had a pretty good day.  I got to spend the entire day with my father.  He even went to the dome with me and hit a few balls.  He hadn't swung a club in over forty years, but caught on pretty quick and had a great time.

After dinner, I took my Son-In-Law to Tanglewood for a quick nine.  We had a lot of fun, hit some good shots, and I kicked his tail.  I made the shot of the day on number nine when I left my tee shot just off of the green, but with a severe uphill shot and right next to a tree.  I had no stance, so I stood with my back to the flag, turned my wedge so the toe was next to my leg, and backhanded the ball onto the green, ala Tom Watson.  I'll go to sleep reliving that shot tonight.

Well, keep the grass and flowers under your feet for a few dozen more years, enjoy what God has given You, and we'll see You back out on the course before You know it.

Hit'em Long and Straight,
Bob

 Lynn42:

    Without a doubt!

    Amos

The rain might also help with a little softer greens. Good luck

Charlie, Yes, you have found a fix. Good work! Now I can post on the blog while in IE7 again.  Thanks

T

Five days of no golf for me. Can't even hit balls into the net in the backyard. Withdrawl symptoms are not painting a pretty picture. ;0) The ark must be almost finished. Please save me a spot.

 Robert F:

    I agree Completely. THAT is the way I do it - or at least TRY to do the SS swing.

    Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

    Amos

 Craig

I am glad calling T, Coach is catching on.  He is great for this blog.

Dick

Dick,

I'm with you.  Roy made a believer out of me and I've not swung my driver more than 75% since I tried it.  I'm sure I'm going to get antsy and try for more one of these days as I don't get to many par 4s in 2 and I refuse to play from the red tees, just my hard-headed Irish showing.   

I think the tips the past couple of days will help if it ever stops raining.  I'm blaming T for all my rain. He just keeps sending east to get rid of it. ;0)

Good luck tomorrow.

Lynn42

Thanks Robert glad to contribute and I will try to heed the good advice of your acronym: PMG.   It took me some time to catch onto the meaning (Play More Golf for the others like me who are slow on the uptake) because in Australia it can stand for Post Master's General or a brand of canned food (Edit: sorry to the other Aussies that's PMU).   Regards, Craig

I don't believe that story for a minute!  He goes missing for a month or two at a time?  Sounds suspicious to me.  Hey!  Maybe he's a secret agent or something! 

It is all down to personal interpretation of what we hear or read. Too many of us, take things literally. The only time my Chinese wife and I disagree is in that area. She takes things said in english rigidly, right down the line, no ifs or buts.It is the same with the Paralysis by Analysis Brigade, when it comes to the interpretation of Surge's words. We all want to be the best we can be, and yet we insist on finding fault where none exists.
The explanation of the two centres in this morning's video [China O841am now,CDT in Oklahoma 13hours behind], was crystal clear. We need perhaps to use a modicum of good old common-sense [which in this day and age, is not common], when reading or watching Surge?
The beauty of Surge's presentation, like it or loathe it, it is intended for ALL Golfers of every class,creed,educational background, or nationality. In that area, IMHO[which it never is ; - ) heh heh heh], he and his team do an INCREDIBLE job.
It is hard to cast aside decades of rotational swinging,but unless we do, and accept the SSGS system totally, we will always DEFEAT OURSELVES.
Clearing the mind, without any prejudices and nitpicking stupidity, in questioning, "He said this,then he said that" comments,will ensure you progress with the the SSGS system quicker. 
Those who are forever whining or criticizing Surge's methods [ad nauseum], I equate to the 'Flat Earth' individuals of the Columbus era.
Do those of us and the Surge Nation a big favour. Take a look at yourselves and consider for a moment, the accomplishments for so many of us Surgites with injuries and restrictions on what we can and cannot do, with our raddled bodies. We who have found a method, which works and has allowed us to play again, after being unable to do so for years. Not only play again, but better than when we were fit young bucks and buckesses.
Perhaps I will end this by something that just popped into my mind for those who question his methods, "COMPARE AND DESPAIR"!

My thanks to Surge and the Crew for all your invaluable help.
Keep it Vertical and long where ever on God's earth you are ; - )

SGW, As the late Sam Kinison might have said. You do not know what rain is, because you live in a freaking desert. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

And with that one I just blew pop out of my nose!!!!  Thanks a lot, Dick.  Go to bed now. :-) R2 

Surge! With this center of gravity video, you have helped improve my swing timing and distance immensely, with clubface moving perfectly square through the POI consistently. It feels great! Now for practice with the "mind" on the range. Five iron on hold, using a seven iron to hit the same target! Thank you!!

Do you also have your computer installed on the golf course? Is that where you are right now typing your request? I don't see how it should be any more difficult for Surge to teach about golf from his porch than it should be for people to learn about it from their dens or offices or wherever they're watching these videos. Try stretching your mind a bit, not you ego.

 Craig63:

   79 (or lower) is on my "bucket list" --- but I still want to the last two or three holes -- LOL

   Amos

Charlie

You hit it right on the head. When you have stared him in the face and shown no fear, death has no hold on you from that moment on.

Everything that has happened in my life since 01/13/1993 is just gravy on top of what was already a pretty good life.

I can't lose, if I won't be beaten.
Dick

Regarding the Surge swing.  Does it matter what speed one swings back to the top to get the club in the vertical position?  Can the backswing be really slow to allow a new Surge swinger to get vertical and then proceed with a normal forward swing speed? 

patg 

 Dick, sorry to hear about your pain episode, I'll be keeping you in my prayers,Brother.
Boog

 Dick Lee:

    Hang in  there Brother ! You are certainly on my prayer list.
  
    As to growing old, just remember --"It is a privellege denied to many"

    Amos 

I think what Dlsisler is trying to say is put it in the right environment. It would be more interesting, FORGIVE ME IF I'M WRONG, is to have it shown on video the actual swing on the range or course to back up the theory. I agree with you Robert, nothing's wrong to teach golf off the course even maybe in the bowling alley.After all it is just an info..ie "Theory". Having said that, I do admit that my entire game has improved from Surge theory. But in reality back home,
If I were to take a lesson from a teaching Pro, I would ask him to hit the ball in between him teaching me, as it really build up my confidence in him AND in myself. It makes it easier for me to emulate the swing and shot. Just as you would be inspired by the great shot of the PGA Pros and emulate them. Again, forgive me Robert, if I am wrong. For what ever it is Surge has great effect on my game, from a USGA Hcp index 15 down to 9.4 in 6 months, averaging 1 index per month despite of playing only 3-4 times a month on the course. (Driving Range 3-4 times a week)

 I share your pain. I'm installing a putting green and driving area on the upper deck. When the rain stops and we are floating around waiting on the water to recede and the land to re-appear, we can at least practice our putting and hit balls.

Ricjoy, I am glad to hear that my last reply and Robert's was able to clear things up for you. Robert has again offered you good help below on how to measure your driver and a wrist to floor chart. Here are a couple links which explain the process of both more fully for you, just in case you need further assistance. Good luck to you.

 http://www.angelfire.com/pa/TW...

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/TW...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

In regards to shortening your Driver or any club for that matter. Yes, it will definitely alter the other swing characteristics of the club. I recommend that rather than shortening them you simply choke down on the grips at varying amounts until you find what works best for you. If after that, you still want to actually shorten the driver, here are some basic guidelines as to adding weight back onto the head with the use of golf lead tape available at most golf stores.
Each 1/2" is equal to 3 swing weights. Each swing weight is equal to about 2gr. So, 1/2" is approximately 6gr.

 Steve

That was awesome.  I guess like another song says, "A country boy can survive."

I downloaded the video so I can watch if again.  Makes my personal problems seem "Not so bad after all."

I noticed something under the video when it was playing.  There were 31 likes and 5 dislikes.  Guess we aren't the only "blog" that has trolls.  Who could dislike that video?  Some people are only alive cause it is against the law to kill them.

Dick

Yep Steve,
Seems like that, but pretty common in this kind of Forum.
Anyway just returned from the driving range(our time is 12 hrs ahead of EST) trying to understand the mechanic of the Bump Part 2 and the double CG.
After 150 balls at the range, I conclude that I would stick to a rotational swing for a while as it suits my natural physique and giving me consistency.BTW our local club annual championship begins this Friday(for 3 days) not the time for a change anyway. Tried for an hour, on the range but could not comprehend as it feels like too much body movement, or may be I just overdo it.

Bunuya hudee

The problem is not with the swing but with your execution of it. Get some video of your self and watch what you're actually doing (as opposed to what you think you're doing). As Roy noted, the outward pressure on the knees is only to keep them directly over the feet through the back swing, not enough pressure to bow them out past the feet. If it hurts, you're doing it wrong. Also, as Dick points out below, the outward pressure ends with the bump when you allow both knees to shift laterally forward.

You can also look up with the search box for "Curing Banana Balls," a video where Surge gives some specific advice for people who are having problems with big fades and slices.

Yes I fully agree with all of you, Robert and dgaines, may be I was a bit over in that opinion. As dgaines said it is business, and I was out of that scope thinking it is just and just a forum hence just sincerely submitting my opinion. But as I had mentioned, Surge tips from the backporch has turned my dull golf game to an exciting one. Really enjoying the game since the last 7 months. His video I bought do help a bit too. ... bunuya hudee

Tina, I know what you mean. Hopefully, John has received my components and has started the assembly process. They were ordered last week, and I am hoping to receive them by the end of next week. When mine come, rain or shine, I will be hitting them somewhere. Fortunately, there is a covered range about 15 minutes away with mats.

Hang in there Dick....hope ya feel better!  

Bunuya hudee,

I agree 3days is not enough time to make a change like this.  Most of us have been at it for some time and had real success.  It works, but no change is an overnight miracle.  For me personally, it's been about a year and I could not be happier.  We are a good bunch and here to help.  We get a tad defensive sometimes when it come to Surge and his method, but that's because we know it works.

Good luck Friday.

Lynn42

Good day Surge Nation,
Well I'm going to play the third of three awsome choices at the Pauite Golf in Las Vegas. www.lvpaiutegolf.com  It is the Wolf course. They have three 18's. The Sun, Snow mountain and Wolf. All Pete Dye designs and the best golf courses for the money in the whole valley. They are open to the public but because they are not cheap and a little bit of a drive out of town (on north I 95 about 40 minutes from the heart of sin city) play is still around 4 hours and everything is pristine and first class. I played the Sun two weeks ago and the Snow mountain last week. Today I have a 1:57pm tee time from 'Golf Now' for $51.00(that's a deal). Many of you will say spendy and I agree. Now a days the way I look at it is if I can I am going to "treat" myself good at least once every two weeks with a quality golf course. These three golf courses have been right under my nose for over 10 years and I just discovered them 1 month ago. Amazing quality golf from Pete Dye (think Sawgrass and the Players Championship). They have an Island green on #15 par three that is ala #17 at Sawgrass! I'll face it today with 25-30mph winds and a cool un-Las Vegas like 60* with possible rain. So we'll see how much of a full report I give after shooting 90-105!! LOL. At my local muni I can get close to 80 most of the time but this is the longest course in Las Vegas(Wolf)  at 7,600 yards and lots of deep bunkers, doglegs and water with desert left and right. I plan on playing the middle tees which will bring it down to a more normal 7,100 yards. I'll let you'all know how it goes. I already know it's going to be great regardless of the weather and my final score. I plan on heading out there around noon to practice my Surge fundementals before teeing off. Oh BTW, they have two huge seperate practice areas and greens, everal putting greens and grass only range(no mats or rubber tees) with all range balls included hince factor that in as you judge the $$. Robert F. you need to get out to Paiute and tee it up with me sometime :)