Fitted Clubs Make All the Difference

FITTED CLUBS MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE

I was able to spend a day with a Certified Club Fitter. I hit a lot of balls with a lot of different clubs. I gotta say it was time and money WELL spent. I ended up getting a new driver that was 43" long with a regular Voodoo shaft...and playing it (ball position) off my left toe instead of my instep. That one change increased my carry from about 217 to 234 just because I'm not hitting down on the ball and creating too much spin. I also took 3/4" off my irons and reshafted to replace the weight I lost when I reduced the length. I was lucky to have the right shaft for me which was a 5.5 Project X. I also had him build me a 14 1/2 degree 3 wood that is absolutely the easiest club to get in the air I think I've ever hit. First time out I hit 2 of the par fives in two that I generally have trouble with.

I learned some stuff I didn't know about my swing. First thing was - You may not be doing what you think or feel like you're doing. I thought I was really vertical but was between 10 & 11 o'clock. I also thought I was swinging 3/4 but was going to parallel. Ah, the power of video.

For anybody have trouble getting to vertical, review the right elbow position videos from the Surge. Then watch his split screen video of him hitting balls and watch the right elbow position. This is really key in getting vertical and swinging the light club. Once you get that right elbow in the right position, the club just screams down into the hitting area and your left arm stays straight because it is fully extended. Do a word search on right elbow. It is worth the time.

This is going to be a great year!

Stay Vertical

Bruce

eb:

I would be happy to lend of give DJ my driver so he can hit more fairways and make cuts. You seem to have trouble with the fact that DJ is the pro and he is the one missing fairways. You seem to be a Saul Alinsky acolyte.

Every chicken deserves a little chokin'

Well, first off, John was not working for Gideon when he did anything for Don. Secondly, if was was to divulde all that I know regarding certain topics, it would not be a good thing here on a public forum. Surfice it to say that you are perhaps not priveldge to the hole story. If you have such a close relationship with Gideon, go see him or even call him. He'll be happy to talk to you I'm sure.

Well, just how am I going to get to talk to your fitter. It's just one excuse after another. Heck, I'd think you'd welcome the opportunity to talk my ear off about your shaft.

BTW, I said that Laszlo never said anything about you and new information. Let's put the complete statement up and not take things out of context. You are a master at doing exactly what you accuse other people of doing. And, what I said was accurate. He never said anything about you and new information and we was coming to your "defense". He also never said anything that wasn't truth.

So, if you won't be talking with me to arrange a get together with Surge, who will, and when will it happen. Do you expect me to really believe that your fitter will call me when he has never had any contact with me? (for that matter I don't think that there has ever been a fitter in the first place just like I don't think there is a JB51. At some point when things calm down with internet operations I will find out the IP addresses for WK and for JB51.)

So, once again I'm firmly convinced that you have managed to "wiggle" your way around someone calling you on your challenges and this time you can't change the "rules" as you put it out there that you'd fly the fitter in but now you can't get a date set up. Imagine that.

Phillip

Thanks pal. Good advice. If anyone is so wimpy that they would be afraid to lose a few hairs when the duct tape is removed, I would not want them in my fox hole anyway.

Pain is temporary, honor is forever, and chicks dig scars.
Dick

Hi Dicky:

Try sticking to your rules and rambling on about stuff no one cares about. I may be near OK City in the next month. Hard to say. Do you want to see my driver and watch me blow a drive way past yours? I was flying the ball farther than anytime in my life this afternoon when Doc had me paged. 300 yards of carry - warm air and a slight following wind. Plans are up in the air. So I will take a special effort to see you if I am within 200 miles.

I served 4 years in the USAF (4344) so please don't wrap your self in the flag and hide behind it. You remind me of leftists at Berkely who use to spit on returning servicemen. I served in out military too and BP was given a chance to have a free fit and a free driver and he chickened out like all the rest here.

According to Doc ... Surge wants to see the driver and I will go over to my fitter's house tomorrow and return his call as he requested. I want to step out of the loop and just get my fitter to meet Surge and Doc so he can show them the same results that

Aguyajain, on behalf of the entire Surge Nation, I say:

Eat me.

Lynn

Every good comedy team needs a straight man.

It is a tough job, but I love it.
Dick

Thanks Kevin. I appreciate your thoughtful comments on the blog.

Robert, I agree with everything you & others have posted on this issue
Despite that, I use a ball that is probably too soft for me & score better as a result
I lose distance because of it
I reckon I more than make up for that loss at the short game end
I chip, pitch & putt better with the soft ball - particularly if it has a soft cover

There's always one weirdo in the bunch I guess

ETW, I apologize for my part in the soap opera. I am no longer a player in the game, so that will cut down on some. Cheers

Robert F:

RIGHT ON!

Amos

BOOTLICKER

Janet, I'm thankful that I never considered WKs offer.

Ladies and Gentlemen

I have deep gratitude and appreciation for Don Trahan and Lynn Griffin. They guide us with their experience, wisdom, and love of the game without reservation or guile. Many of us will admit, if pressed, that any sport is the voluntary pursuit of an unimportant goal. But this awareness does not make a sport or its pursuit meaningless, as there are many lessons within these worlds. We have been privileged to meet with these two remarkable men in this medium, and many of our lives will be changed for the better as a result. I read them both as men of character, in the best possible sense. And then there is Mr. Bill.

Deep frustrations have led to sarcasm and derision on this blog, and the devil is being painted on the wall with each additional response to Mr. Bill's challenges. It is not important to explore whether Mr. Bill is being driven by hormonal, mental, or pharmaceutical directives. It has been made abundantly clear, by Mr. Bill himself, that he is and will continue to be a legend in his own mind, which is his right and perhaps the destiny he must face. I am doubtful that Mr. Bill is an idiot, but these same doubts suggest that it may be wise not to argue with him as he will drag you down to his level and beat you with his experience.

Golf is a game we all love. Ladies and gentlemen, love and be loved, in your lives, and in this game of wonder. If we cannot throw bread instead of stones, perhaps it is better to throw nothing at all.

Laszlo

I think I just spotted smoke and wreckage in Dicks "no fly zone".

Lynn

Boy is it great to see you here again. You are not just a SA, in my book you are my #1 SA.

Sounds like you had a great day and are out there making disciples. If anyone needs the Surge Swing, it is those two guys. Hope it can give them both many more years of enjoying this game we love to hate.

You are so right my friend. Who you play a round with can be as important as how you play the round.

Your secret about the magic driver is safe with me. I am sure no one will ever know but us. No one reads my posts anyway, as long as I put something in each one about food. So, here it is. Since dad and I played a bit late and did not start till 3pm, we did not get our usual cheeseburger at the turn. We went for the lite version and just had hot dogs. Still good.

Can't help myself,
Dick

I think I have had enough fun for one day. Time for some light supper, a good DVD, I think Black Swan, and then to bed I go. It's nearing 7pm on the east coast. I might check back in just before bed, but perhaps not. Parting is such sweet sorrow !

Jim:

I use to adapt too ... even after going through the extensive 3D fitting process from Taylormade at Aviara. But I now am using a unique club that seems to adapt to me. Gave me 30 yards and more accuracy too.

T:

As to: "Motivation: Needs to be admired by others, "I am the star - look at me"
Weapons: Verbal abuse, stonewalling, misinformation, lies, sabotage"

you may want to reconsider what you write. No attack from where I sit you are describing yourself.

N/A

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any recommendation for a fitter in the Santa Cruz/Monterey CA area?

Janet

Grab yourself a hot dog and some peanuts. We are only in the first inning.

The score is.

No fly zone: Everything
Trolls: Nothing

Don't sit on the sidelines woman, get your bat, and get in the game.

Swatting trolls is fun, and it is completely fat free.

Dick

Doc:

As to Gideon Ariel and you saying:
"First, let's tell it like it is. There is so much more to the whole story Gideon Ariel and others, and having had conversations with Gideon, personally, I know that what you are espousing is not fact."

Tell us the whole story then.

Gideon does not know how to design golf shafts AFAIK. I think he did design the varying amount of resistance in Nautilus equipment as well as (from memory) Air Jordans. he has a pair of shoes in his house with an air bladder in the insole.

I met John d'Acquisto at Gideon's office in La Jolla when Gideon's APAS software was running on a DEC minicomputer. John told me that Surge's PPGS was valid swing theory from a biomechanical point of view so what part of the Gideon story is missing?

People here ripped Surge for working with John (he has a prison record and I can forgive a person for making a mistake) and I defended John and his analysis. Which means I also backed Surge against the howling mob that populates this place - rather blood thirsty bunch they are. The backing was based on the fact that the PPGS swing theory works and not to suck up or belittle.

Jack, that just means you fit the ball to what you needed in your game--more control around the greens. You may want to try a ball with a harder core but still having a softer cover. That could be the best of both worlds for you. Of course, that assumes the distance issue is from over-compressing the ball with your swing.

Hey, Janet, you're a SPRING CHICKEN. At least your brain isn't frustrated from lack of use.

T:

I accept your apology.

There's a couple in California that are recomended. I personally am considering Lief Anderson in Palo Alto. Look up Calgolflab.com. Another is just south of Santa Barbra on the coast. Go to search box above right and put in fitters.
BTW. I'll be coming from Las Vegas so don't belly ache about the inconvienience. (lol:)

Bla,Bla,Bla, Get some new material. We're tired of hearing the same old shit over and over. Are you trying to convince us or YOURSELF!

Friends, I ask that you choose the course of ignoring elements that come here to bait you. Do not rise to the bait. Yes, they are masters at putting it out there and by taking the bait, you are giving in to their mastery. Ignore them. Stop responding in any way. Really. Leave the bait alone.

Robert T: I can promise you the adventure of a lifetime if you'll get involved with wounded soldiers, their families, and any of the 'Nam" vets out there. The guys on our blog have given you some great places to start. I rely on my son-in-law, who runs a company (and there are many out there) that fights for the rights and obtains state and federal services for war vets, their families, and especially those with disabilities. He is also an avid golfer, and whenever one of his clients or their family request "recreational therapy/golfing", I get to go and teach them. I charge nothing, because I'm the one who learns the most. - really. Last year I worked with a young Marine who had lost part of an arm in the Iraq conflict. He had always wanted to golf, but was depressed because of the arm problem. I worked with him and his family for several weeks, and it was simply amazing to see what happened. His life outlook changed, (and so did mine) when he realized he could golf, using the right "tools". Soooo, look at your options and realize that there are many, many people out there just waiting for someone to help lift and guide them to a more meaningful life, and that someone can be you! R2

You're a liar. That's all there is to it.

asshole / as-hohl
noun --
slang ...
2. a stupid, mean, contemptible person

Doc

Memo to Doc.

You guys are the problem.

Signed,
The troll

You feel better now. I hate to be left out of the loop too.

Cheer up, it will only get worse.

Dick

cigar smoke is an excellent source of brain cancer and lip cancer.

Glad to hear you've had good results with your fitting. I am in process myself with a PPGS cirtified fitter here in Ohio. We are waiting for the weather to allow the next phase of outside launch monitor stats. I am fairly sure that i will need to go from r-flex to a senior or ladies flex in my shafts. As far as the right elbow, this is one of Dons best videos about it.

http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Ho...

How's this for an analogy, Surge: Hitting clubs that haven't been properly fitted for you is like getting into a random car and trying to drive, the mirrors may be set wrong, the seat too far forward or back, the steering wheel too high or low. You can probably drive it, but you'll be a danger to everyone else on the road.

And, to the Tech People, I enjoy the Like and Edit buttons, but can we get a STFU button? ;-)

Janet

We won't force you. We will just have so much fun you won't be able to resist getting in the game.

We don't discriminate here. I don't care what anyone has told you.

We are co-ed, multi-racial, multi-national, multi-cultural, multi-religion, and multi-multi. I bet we have some multi-sexual folks on here.

I have been a firearms instructor for many years. I don't know if you shoot at all. Let me give you a little tip about taking shots at trolls. If your shot goes high, you have a clean miss. So, here is my tip. Aim a little on the low side. That way, even if you don't hit them, you will hit the ground in front of them like a fat golf shot, and cover them with your divot.

Come on in, the water is warm,
Dick

BPerk:

I only see one problem with your idea -- IF the OEM's could build the perfect club(s), they would only sell ONE set per golfer per lifetime! They are in business to sell LOTS of clubs to LOTS of golfers.

But I endrose your HUMOR -- and appreciate it. LOL

Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

Amos

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Doc

As one of my professors at Bible college used to say. "Any text taken out of context is a pretext."

Dick

You should reserve finger pointing until you know the whole story and history of Bill Kearney over the past year now and it has been just about a year. He belittles Surge and myself as if we're idiots and have no clue as to what we are talking about. He belittles DJ constantly and is always as odds with others on this blog. Enough is enough. Like I said, a year of this is too much.

Did everybody see the giant driver attached to the foul pole in San Diego? Finally! The magic shaft is available for everyone to see. LOL It was just shown on the Golf Channel.

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SoDak

I am with you pal. I have not bought a golf ball in over 30 years.

My favorite ball is the one the hot shot in front of me lost.
Dick

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Hey Doc:

I flew on the EC-121 spy plane (BatCat) over North Vietnam in 1967. I also flew as a crew member over the entire length of the Vietnam at 1,500 feet. Sat on flak jackets to protect the family jewels. All the way from the DMZ to the delta - we did checking of navigation sites on that one. On the EC-121 we were monitoring the flow of communist armaments flowing down the Ho Chi Minh trail.

Sensors (placed on the trail in Laos, N Vietnam and Cambodia as well as S Vietnam) would indicate when they commies loaded with stuff to continue the invasion from the North would pass by our sensors and then we would see the wiggles on the senors in the EC-121 and then relay that info to field cannons located in Vietnam and then we would blast them from here to Kingdom come. Also worked on the Wild Weasel via the F4e -- all this was out of Khorat RTAFB in Thailand where I ran maintenance control as a 1st Lt. I had more people under management and did more to wage war than Brain will see in his whole career. I worked 12 hours per day for 6 days per week for an entire year - one week off. Ask Brian how many times he put in 72 hours per week for an entire year at 100 degrees and 90% humidity. I went over at 220 pounds and came back at 165.

I got to fly on the EC-121 from being a golf buddy of Col Mitchell (wing commander of the BatCats) back at Travis AFB where I was a line maintenance office for the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster,

If Brian still wants to come to SD for a free fitting and shaft the offer is still open whenever he wants. The only caveat is that I want to fly my fitter out to meet you and Surge and he can't fit.

I am going over to my fitter tomorrow and we will give you a call.